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Priv Holder, problems buying tickets

philthetube

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I travel occasionally from Squires Gate to Canterbury.

The ticket has to be on card stock as it is a cross London journey, even though in reality almost everyone would walk from Euston to St. Pancras.

I cannot buy a ticket at the station, as a priv holder, nor on the train as the gurad cannot sell card stock.

I have a 10 minute connection at Preston but this is rarely enough time to buy a ticket.

on 3 of my last 4 trips I have boarded a London bound service to Crewe without a ticket, this has not caused me a problem but I can imagine it might. The Avanti staff are also unable to sell a ticket again because ccst is needed.

Crewe has been my first opportunity to purchase a ticket, I have had no issues there on 2 occasions but on the third I was grilled by barrier staff who were would not initially allow me through and it was only when I asked them to repeat the refusal while I recorded it that they relented.

I do not have access to the staff ticketing web site

Is there a solution?
 
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philthetube

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Sorry, ToD?

This has not been offered.

It would take me about 3 hours return to get to a ticket office.
 

Mcr Warrior

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Squires Gate station is managed by Northern. It's unstaffed and only has a TVM, which presumably doesn't issue 'Priv' tickets. So, what help/advice have they (Northern) got to say on the matter?

It would take me about 3 hours return to get to a ticket office.
Thinking aloud, Blackpool North is not that far from Squires Gate.
 

AndrewE

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I travel occasionally from Squires Gate to Canterbury.

I do not have access to the staff ticketing web site

Is there a solution?
Arrange access then? Either on a friend's computer or maybe using one in a public library...
 

RPI

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Arrange access then? Either on a friend's computer or maybe using one in a public library...
I was going to suggest the same, you could then collect the tickets from a Ticket Vending Machine if it is a cross London journey
 

philthetube

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It is far enough on a bus, or a walk which is more than I am capable of and depending on family health I may find I cannot travel so want to buy tickets on the day.

I cannot get access to the ticketing site as I am ex underground and it has not been offered, I would love to be able to buy that way.
 

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Arrange access then? Either on a friend's computer or maybe using one in a public library...

Should people really have to be going to these sorts of lengths?

If there’s no booking office at the station then buy from the guard on the train. If that doesn’t work for whatever reason then at the first convenient point on the journey without causing a connecting service to be missed.

It isn’t really for staff to be striking up an argument on this. Providing no practicable ticket issuing facilities have been missed (ie walking straight past an open ticket office) then there is no reason for any issue to be made.

Why does the ticket have to be card stock, though? If needed for the Underground then can the OP not just show it to gateline staff?
 

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Why does the ticket have to be card stock, though? If needed for the Underground then can the OP not just show it to gateline staff?
You can't physically buy tickets that have cross London journey in e-ticket form, I believe. It simply doesnt let you buy an e-ticket, which does make sense since underground stations don't have Aztec scanners.
 

philthetube

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The daft thing is that there are 2 reasons why I don't need to use card stock, I would always walk this journey Euston to St. Pancras and I have free travel with TFL anyway.

I know I am not the only one to suffer with this issue, would it not be possible to allow initial issue on bog roll which could be exchanged when practical at any station with a ticket office.
 

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Sorry we can't sell PRIV tickets, but for anyone else in this situation, there is an advanced option on the forum's ticketing site, "Let me use Oyster/Contactless to travel across London"

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It doesn't guarantee availability of e-tickets, and it will only work if it's cheaper to not include the cross-London transfer, but it gives you a chance:

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There is no reason why RDG could not provide similar advanced options to PRIV holders, but I suspect they have no interest in doing so.
 

waterpoo

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It's not ideal because I assume it would cost slightly more. But could you split your trip, ticket wise, and just buy a ticket to Euston, and then another separate journey ticket from KX since you walk it anyway?
 

philthetube

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I could but this restricts my return times as a ticket from Canterbury allows off peak return travel in the afternoon.

This is something which needs solving, not working round.
 

scrapy

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Could you but to Crewe/Euston and get an overdistance excess at the ticket office?
 

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I'm in a similar position being ex LUL/ TfL with a retired PTAC and my wife has a Partner version. I have to go either Worksop or Mansfield to a Booking Office if I want to use the Underground. I know I could get Priv Oysters but for the number of times we go to London it's really not worth it.
 

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It is on the railway to provide ticketing facilities which allow you to buy tickets.

If they choose not to, and don't equip their staff with the requisite equipment to sell you your ticket either, then that is not your problem.

You're doing the right thing, and you should be putting in a complaint to Avanti about how you were treated at Crewe gateline multiple times.
 

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I'm in a similar position being ex LUL/ TfL with a retired PTAC and my wife has a Partner version. I have to go either Worksop or Mansfield to a Booking Office if I want to use the Underground. I know I could get Priv Oysters but for the number of times we go to London it's really not worth it.
I definitely found my priv oyster worth it... but what wasn't worth it was the annual trip to London to get the discount applied, and the lottery of finding a LUL barrier with staff who could (or would) do it. I used to allow a day for it: a ride south, several hours messing (other verbs are available) about, maybe a pint or two to make the journey worthwhile and then a trip home! (Oh, and a bagful of mixed pakhora, samosas and stuffed peppers from the Gupta shop in Drummond St.)
 

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