Preston to Edinburgh ticket validity?

[Mcr Warrior]

Would a CDR ticket from Preston to Edinburgh be valid from Preston to Glasgow Central, then Glasgow Queen Street (Lower) to Edinburgh (via Airdrie and Bathgate?)

 

[yorkie]

The Routeing Guide is here:
http://www.atoc.org/about-atoc/rail-settlement-plan/routeing-guide

Both Preston and Edinburgh are Routeing Points, so it's easy.

The permitted route identifier says valid routes can be found on the following maps:

EG+LM
ER+TP
ZZ

You can view the maps here:

http://www.atoc.org/clientfiles/File/maps.pdf - enjoy!

 

[Mcr Warrior]

So how about the bit between Glasgow Queen Street (Lower) and Edinburgh (via Airdrie and Bathgate) which doesn't show on the maps indicated, presumably because the through route has only opened in the past few months?

 

[b0b]

So how about the bit between Glasgow Queen Street (Lower) and Edinburgh (via Airdrie and Bathgate) which doesn't show on the maps indicated, presumably because the through route has only opened in the past few months?

You're right, its not on the maps, but I don't think you'll be pulled up for using the ticket on the A-B line.

But technically its not valid.

 

[me123]

You'd be very unlucky to get pulled up for it. It's probably just an oversight from ATOC. None of the maps have it on them. In all reality, considering you are permitted to travel from the High Level to Edinburgh, I think the TEs would struggle to stop you using the new route from the Low Level. You'll be fine.

(It's also worth noting that the TEs on the North Clyde Line are remarkably lenient and I'm sure won't think twice about it!)

 

[b0b]

I've never really understood why the Glasgow to Edinburgh maps get so complicated in the routeing gude -

what are they trying to prevent by showing all of the permitted routes, rather than drawing a straight line from Glasgow Group to Edinburgh Group?

 

[rail-britain]

I've never really understood why the Glasgow to Edinburgh maps get so complicated in the routeing gude
what are they trying to prevent by showing all of the permitted routes, rather than drawing a straight line from Glasgow Group to Edinburgh Group?

The issue are the passenger flows and combinations
There are also historical agreements

The obvious one is Warrington - Preston - Edinburgh
ATOC would prefer passengers to change at Carlisle, rather than via Glasgow
If a passenger does accidently travel to Glasgow, then the routing guide allows them to travel on limited routes to Edinburgh

At present Glasgow QS - Airdrie - Bathgate - Edinburgh is not an alternative route, but it is likely to be added later this year (once the full timetable is in operation)
Ironically, passengers with journeys via Glasgow QS LL need not change and can travel via Airdrie

Equally, there are now reports that the Central Scotland Rover is being refused via Airdrie (in error)
Some staff are pulling out the leaflet, which clearly does not include the route!
I did have an assurance from First ScotRail that it would be accepted, but have now had to make a further enquiry about this
However this map appears on their website (which does match the latest leaflet) :
http://www.scotrail.co.uk/sites/default/files/images/rovermap3.jpg