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Kris

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Were the Pigs unique or did they have some lineage to former rolling stock?

From my old stomping ground New Street where I used to spot Westerns, Peaks, 31's etc

The 310's even had the same style drop window at the side for the driver.

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Clacton unit 309
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What year(s) was I at New Street? Would have been in the early 70's - I used to catch the stopper from Tile Hill where I did most of my spotting.

Had an argument with the signal man there once. I said that it couldn't be the 'Up Line' to London because London was 'Down' South.

My favourite unit - especially those which had single compartments with no corridor connection and doors each side (Haven for fare dodgers of which I wasn't one):-

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Hellfire units!
Spent many happy days bouncing around on them !

Trent Valley Flyer will always be fondly remembered. 17xx Stoke-Rugby with Lichfield photo stop. Was even a Manchester-Rugby mileage move for a few timetables!
310s were good, but 304s were just superb inside...
 

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My favourite unit - especially those which had single compartments with no corridor connection and doors each side (Haven for fare dodgers of which I wasn't one):-

Really?










No, of course you didn't fare dodge.




I need to control myself! ;) :D
 

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Yup. Really. Even went to New Street & back one day then croosed the line back to the ticket office to pay - just the way we were brought up in those days.

Didn't stop me sneaking through to first class though or lying on the luggage racks.:D
 

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My favourite unit - especially those which had single compartments with no corridor connection and doors each side (Haven for fare dodgers of which I wasn't one):-

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We used to suffer these on the Manchester - Crewe line. They used to bounce up and down so much they'd almost throw you off the seat sometimes! I remember when they were originally 4-coach units. They were pretty slow accelerators when 3-coach, must have been awful with 4. Is that why they reduced them to 3?

I travelled on one a few years ago when I thought they'd all gone. I got off the Virgin train from Euston at Crewe to catch the local to Wilmlslow - and it was one of these! hadn't seen one in months, so I don't know where that one came from. But it was a very hot day and it was great to be able to lowere the window and stand by it getting a nice cooling breeze. Can't do that on the new trains!

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Where's that one from Bastiaan? Looks a bit Swiss but I don't remember seeing any Swiss stock like that.
 

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I do believe the BR designer for the Pig cab had taken a look at the 309 - pre 'refurbishment' they looked something like this:

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They were, obviously, based on the Mk3 carriage, too.
 

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Interesting photos, keep them coming!

Trent Valley Flyer will always be fondly remembered. 17xx Stoke-Rugby with Lichfield photo stop. Was even a Manchester-Rugby mileage move for a few timetables!
310s were good, but 304s were just superb inside...
I bet the Trent valley was a really interesting place to be back then, with interesting EMUs and proper locos in abundance. Got any photos?
 

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I grew up next to the West Coast Main Line in Coventry in the 60's so it was pretty boring. Mainly class 8x's of all types and coaches plus the units. Only saw a steam engine once at Coventry station and it frightened the life out of me.

Saw a rebuilt and unrebuilt Bulleid hauling Pullmans past Meyrick Park whilst on holiday in about 1965 and Blue Pullmans on the Western whilst on holiday in Reading. Favourite locos being Hymeks, Westerns and Warships at the time.

Not a fan of blue - diesels should be green or maroon :thumblef:
 

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I've grown up with 319s in all sorts of livery's and MML with 170s and 47s...

Though none of the Mk2 based units above look like they would of been used to base the 442 mk3 fronts on...
 

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I grew up next to the West Coast Main Line in Coventry in the 60's so it was pretty boring. Mainly class 8x's of all types and coaches plus the units. Only saw a steam engine once at Coventry station and it frightened the life out of me.

Saw a rebuilt and unrebuilt Bulleid hauling Pullmans past Meyrick Park whilst on holiday in about 1965 and Blue Pullmans on the Western whilst on holiday in Reading. Favourite locos being Hymeks, Westerns and Warships at the time.

Not a fan of blue - diesels should be green or maroon :thumblef:

I grew up in Sale, south Manchester. Mostly saw ex-MSJ&R emus, and DMUs, and nondescript tank engines doing yard shunting. But during the electrification of Manchester - Crewe, we got diversions, and I well remember rushing down to the railway after school to watch the diverted 'Pines Express' come through - usually behind a Brittania.

And on bike rides, only a few miles south at Timperley were the freight lines of the ex-CLC and LNWR to Warringtom. Lots of Stanier 8Fs and BR 9Fs!

One of my earliest memories is being lifted onto the footplate of a Jubilee at Manchester Exchange. I remember the gleaming copper and the hot fire, and the driver saying "tonight when you're in bed we'll be racing along somewhere up in Scotland. It'll be too hot for us in the cab, and freezing cold if you stick your head out of the cab".

I had recently learned to read (I was about 5), and thought the engines name was 'Tobacco', which seemed very strange to me. It was, of course, Tobago!

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Where's that one from Bastiaan? Looks a bit Swiss but I don't remember seeing any Swiss stock like that.
It's Swiss indeed. Best country EVAAAHH :P

This is an ABt steering car from the Furka-Oberalpbahn (FO), which operates the line from Brig to Disentis via Andermatt. Also the Brig-Visp-Zermatt bahn (BVZ) have these kind of steering cars. A few years ago these two companies merged with each other into Matterhorn-Gotthard-Bahn (MGB).
Though, only a few of them have the corridor at the front, so not all of them look like the 5-wes units :(

A locomotive type with a similair "pig effect", also owned by the MGB, is the Deh 4/4 I. They have a corridor at one front. At the other front there's just a door, as you can see on the picture below.

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