I would certainly argue for the use of Hanlon's razor in this case, yes.
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Northern fake "Compulsory Reservations" Trial
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Bletchleyite
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Evidently
Talk about someone coming up with a stupid idea and just flipping a switch in the production instance without bothering to do any impact assessment or testing first.
Thanks for the clarification. I expect that in practice it won't make much of a difference. How they'll manage to enforce quota control across so many stations and stop other outlets selling tickets for their services is beyond my comprehension. Even management will probably decide it's more hassle than it's worth.
Bletchleyite
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Enforce what? All it is is, like Avanti and LNER, the online sales channels and planner based TVMs mark that service as "sold out", and every ticket is sold with a counted place even if it's hidden from display by your retailer. It's a level of control on sales which is easily worked around.
You mean like Grand Central do?
Bletchleyite
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If they do, and it results in paying more than you should, then I would argue that is fraud if it is done deliberately. I'm not sure in GC's case it's not just incompetence, though, it's never been a well managed operation. It's incompetence in the way WMT do it, certainly (having restriction text that can't be implemented properly).
It's entirely irrelevant.
Bletchleyite
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The same as it does now. It only has any kind of effect on purchasing tickets against an itinerary. It is just a sales tool, one is not required to have a reservation to board.
Harpers Tate
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Season tickets and PTE passes? How about using trains that are fit for purpose (i.e. have enough room)? Oh, wait; we can't do that because Platform 17 at Leeds. Good way to encourage people to drive - which has, of course, been the agenda at government level since the late 50s.
Bishops
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They are missing out on a so much data because it seems a lot of their guards on the bishop line wont scan an ITSO card - apparently they are always *broken* so if it happens here im sure it happens a few other places as well. Mind you ive had one or two guards actually question my card before they have scanned it because 'it doesnt say northern on it'!!
All great stuff and exactly to be expected. What a total mess of executing what was a bad idea to start with.
Bletchleyite
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The thread is a misnomer. It's not actually compulsory reservations, you do not need a reservation to board. Could the thread creator maybe change the subject to "Northern Fake Compulsory Reservations Trial" or somesuch as people would know what it meant then?
It is the same as LNER/Avanti in that reservations are optional but quota control is applied to the selection of each train when buying online or from a planner based TVM. From most vendors you won't even get anything that even looks like a reservation when you buy a ticket - most if not all are set up now not to print a coupon/put an itinerary on an e-ticket when the only reservations are counted places unless it is an Advance fare.
fishwomp
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This is where they're going wrong:
If you don't have people sat in the bog, you aren't even approaching full... capacity needs to be - I'd guess - 2x the number of seats.
Where on earth do they get the staff/leadership from that come up with these ideas.
They will be marking available capacity as the number of seats.
If you don't have people sat in the bog, you aren't even approaching full... capacity needs to be - I'd guess - 2x the number of seats.
Where on earth do they get the staff/leadership from that come up with these ideas.
redreni
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If this is the answer, what's the question?
My guess is something like:
The government wishes to promote growth by refusing to invest in anything. We have noticed some local trains can be really badly overcrowded and, consistent with our vision, we want to be seen to address this problem without laying on any more capacity. What can we do to make the consequences of our refusal to invest less visible to the media?
My guess is something like:
The government wishes to promote growth by refusing to invest in anything. We have noticed some local trains can be really badly overcrowded and, consistent with our vision, we want to be seen to address this problem without laying on any more capacity. What can we do to make the consequences of our refusal to invest less visible to the media?