Next Booked Working Details

[GordonT]

In many cases the Real Time Trains website for LNER trains into Kings Cross shows for each specific train, at the foot of the timing information, which next journey the set is booked to form. This can sometimes be a quick and useful means of confirming if late running of incoming services is potentially likely to delay your intended departure. Is this feature unique to RTT and is its availability down to LNER's willingness to facilitate its provision?

 

[Robski]

This information is provided in Network Rail's timetable feed at certain stations (National Rail's Darwin feed also provides this but RTT doesn't use that iirc). It's not unique.

LNER has nothing to do with it.

 

[Frontera2]

The vast majority of operators have their next working details in Darwin, C2C being the most high profile exception.

 

[Horizon22]

This is how delays at terminus stations (as an example) work for departures; because the inbound is delayed - and after the relevant artithmetic for turnaround has been worked out - the associated train will be delayed (without manual intervention) by the approriate amount accordingly through Darwin. It is possible to "break" these associations, but that is a manual intervention to the planned timetable / diagrams for the day.

 

[GordonT]

Thanks for the replies. Is Darwin-sourced information accessible on any of the public facing websites?

 

[Starmill]

Thanks for the replies. Is Darwin-sourced information accessible on any of the public facing websites?

I'm not totally sure what you're asking about here - yes in the sense that just National Rail Enquiries shows it?

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The vast majority of operators have their next working details in Darwin, C2C being the most high profile exception.

Sometimes it's such a lottery. Northern often does pull through associations on the east and usually doesn't on the west. It's quite annoying they don't work by default at places like Windermere.

 

[GordonT]

I'm not totally sure what you're asking about here - yes in the sense that just National Rail Enquiries shows it?

I just wondered if website(s) other than realtimetrains in public domain give a greater amount of detail re next booked working?

 

[splashoutradio]

Not sure if it's what you're looking for, but where the info is available in the NR CIF file (some areas are much better than others - tends to depend on the type of signalling used), the December 2023 timetables include onward workings at https://www.railwaydata.co.uk/timetables/Dec23/

 

[scrapy]

I'm not totally sure what you're asking about here - yes in the sense that just National Rail Enquiries shows it?

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Sometimes it's such a lottery. Northern often does pull through associations on the east and usually doesn't on the west. It's quite annoying they don't work by default at places like Windermere.

Should be quite easy to work out which set will form the next service at Windermere!

 

[Starmill]

Should be quite easy to work out which set will form the next service at Windermere!

Luckily so, just requires manual handling!

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I just wondered if website(s) other than realtimetrains in public domain give a greater amount of detail re next booked working?

Ah, apologies then. Maybe as this information is sometimes viewable at realtime.nationalrail.co.uk 's internal site, but probably not because it's probably protected by the Darwin license.