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Is I'm grammatically correct?

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CarterUSM

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No danger of that, I have little knowledge of the gaelic language, i'm not a great fan of the amount of money and time thrown at it either, as important to mainly the highlands and islands as it is. I believe active speakers now number around 60'000 odds. Yes Dave, I remember that expression well, one my grandmother used with wild abandon. :)
 
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"I'm" is a perfectly legitimate shortening of a common two-word verb phrase in the English language. Its use, however, should be restricted to spoken and informal written scenarios only.

Anyway...

Können Sie nicht "Ich bin" benutzen? :lol:
 

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I had an arguement with my IT teacher because she refuses to believe the fact that the word 'I'm' is correct grammar. She prefers to say I am. But I'm sure 'I'm' is correct english as well as I am. So is 'I'm' correct english, please help.

Absolutely!

I'm is a totally acceptable way of writing I am.

The latter is omre formal, and I wouldrecommend its use in business letters and formal correspondence, but otherwise in general writing or conversation the use of I'm is totally acceptable.
 

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Oh, no no, we've got a place just by Haymarket depot to do that :lol:

*fumes* is that down by Russell Road?

Language can be a funny thing - the tale goes of a sign saying

"POST WILL BE UPLIFTED FROM THE BOX OUTWITH THE SORTING OFFICE AT 9.30PM"

confusing a hell of a lot of English tourists...
 

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It is unbelievable that anyone would consider writing "I am" in formal writing. Surely one would use something similar to the following: "This author's situation is one of", "The role of the investiture is" or "The writer is experiencing".

Please note that I'm being slightly tongue in cheek, though I have heard similar advice from art students in how they write their essays. The most important thing is surely not to follow rules about style but to get your message across. Interestingly, while we're on the subject of grammar, despite what most people would think, "ain't I?" is grammatically correct while "aren't I?" is not. I do not advise that anyone should use this against his or her teacher.
 

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and I thought you weren't going to join this discussion!

It is unbelievable that anyone would consider writing "I am" in formal writing. Surely one would use something similar to the following: "This author's situation is one of", "The role of the investiture is" or "The writer is experiencing".

Please note that I'm being slightly tongue in cheek, though I have heard similar advice from art students in how they write their essays.
You're illustrating the established grammatical exception for the verb "to be", namely, that it doesn't take an object.
I agree, but as grammar is not routinely learned in present times, this rule mainly survives only in useage rather than in understanding, I think its likely to become anachronistic. Sadly.
The most important thing is surely not to follow rules about style but to get your message across.
Well, that's contentious! Vaery contentious!
You've just assumed that languages have a rational function, and that it's driven by intention.
There are several other functions being served, some not rational, some only operating at a societal level, describing a common picture of the world and of our attitudes.
Some are purely expressive and don't require any grammar at all.
I won't contine here, but I just had to disagree.
Interestingly, while we're on the subject of grammar, despite what most people would think, "ain't I?" is grammatically correct while "aren't I?" is not.
Can't say I noticed your response to my "amn't I".
But I'm puzzled as to how "correct" or "incorrect" can be applied to these contractions.
 

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Surely "ain't" isnt even a word? I can't see therfore how it can be grammatically correct?

It is unbelievable that anyone would consider writing "I am" in formal writing. Surely one would use something similar to the following: "This author's situation is one of", "The role of the investiture is" or "The writer is experiencing".

Huh?
 

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The problem is that English is the most subtle and precise language in the world, chiefly because it has such a varied syntax. We have covered "Formal" and "Informal", but, within those there are several layers; for instance: a technical paper should always be written in the third person; an instructive pamphlet uses the "ideal second person"; a formal speech may use the first person - all three are formal.
It is also the nature of language to evolve towards simplification in informal usage, hence the almost inevitable eradication of "amn't I?" in favour of the grammatically bizarre "aren't I?". But, hey, that's evolution, and we cannot really argue against it.
However, what I do find vaguely distressing is the attitude hinted at in the OP, that any attempts to correct usage should be dismissed as being unreasonable. Heavens, the teacher is doing just that, teaching the student how to use the most important tool he has at his disposal. The argument "that's not what I says at home" should not hold water at all.
 

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The problem is that English is the most subtle and precise language in the world, chiefly because it has such a varied syntax. We have covered "Formal" and "Informal", but, within those there are several layers; for instance: a technical paper should always be written in the third person; an instructive pamphlet uses the "ideal second person"; a formal speech may use the first person - all three are formal.

The English language is a bloody minefield!

I have a lot of respect for people who have managed to learn English as a second language, because so much of it makes little sense compared to other languages that tend to be more logical.
 

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The English language is a bloody minefield!

I have a lot of respect for people who have managed to learn English as a second language, because so much of it makes little sense compared to other languages that tend to be more logical.

Yeah true, those from overseas speak better english that the British do, then again Britain is infested with people who can not string a sentance along with out the word "like" inbetween every other word

"its like the man he like went to the shops and yeah like said like you wanna stop doin that and I was like "who the **** do ya fink you are" like..." ect ect
 
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