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Ireland's Railways

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MidnightFlyer

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I've never been on the trains in Ireland (North or Republic), I was just wondering about doing so, and if so what are the most interesting lines/stations/features to see/do. Thanks in advance :D :D
 
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The only loco hauled passenger trains in the island of Ireland are the Dublin - Cork and Dublin - Belfast services using Class 201 locos built by GM in 94 & 95. They are a cousin to the class 66.

Other Intercity routes in Ireland use the Class 22000's DMU's built by Rotem.

Cork area services are in the hands of the Class 2600 built by Tokyu.

Limerick area services are in the hands of the Class 2700 built by GEC Alsthom. They also operate the Ballina Branch line.

Dublin Suburban Commuter Diesel services are handled by Class 2800's built by Tokyu and Class 29000's built by CAF. Some Dublin Commuter services are in the hands of the Class 22000's (Heuston - Kildare locals) and select Clonsilla / Maynooth line services.

There is a electric suburban railway running from Howth / Malahide in the north of the City to Greystones in Co. Wicklow (south of the City). There are three types of EMU used:

Class 8100 built by LHB. These are the oldest units in use.
Class 8200 built by Alstom. These are currently out of use due to being a small fleet, the recession means passenger numbers are down and being a Alstom product from 2000 a load of ****e!
Class 8500 built by Tokyu. These are three subfleets of the 8500's (reminds me of the UK Class 455's) divided into the 8500, 8510 & 8520's. Each has noticable differences to the earlier class members.

Diesel locos in use include the 071 and 201 classes. The 071's are now confined to Freight and Per-Way duties, several members of the 201's are stored while the balance are used of passenger and occasional freight workings.

For photos and to get a feel of the Irish Rail network take a look at my fotopic site: http://thewanderersirishrailphotos.fotopic.net/

Hope this information helps.
The Wanderer.
 

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Thewanderer has pretty much covered the Republic (and his photos are great as well).

NI Railways are effectively the last state-owned TOC in the UK, although the structure is slightly different; NIR's infrastructure is its own, there's no relationship to Network Rail.

As already mentioned, the Enterprise would be the only regularly scheduled loco-hauled service in Northern Ireland. The carriages used on the Enterprise are unique in Ireland, and were built by de Dietrich around the same time they were building the Eurostar. The interiors are very similar to the original Eurostar interiors, and if you squint you can see the similarity outside; only the Enterprise carriages don't have shared bogies.

There is one rake of British Mk. 2 carriages that were formerly used on the Gatwick Express. They were sold, re-gauged and brought over in the late nineties (IIRC?) and provided additional rush hour capacity on the Portadown - Belfast line before the full compliment of C3K trains arrived from CAF in Spain. I haven't seen the Gatwicks in passenger service for a long time, but I believe they're still operational.

There are 23 three-car C3K (3000 class) DMUs; all standard class, 90mph capable. Very comfortable, a giant leap forward for NIR.

Construction has started on the first of the next fleet to arrive, the C4K (4000 class). There's be about twenty of them, in three and four car configurations. Although they'll be similar to the C3K and interoperable, they will have many minor improvements based on the experiences of the C3K, so should be considered a distinct class.

There are 9 three-car 450 class DMUs, mainly working on the Larne line. These were built in the mid-1980s, using new mk. 3 derived bodyshells on recycled mk. 1 underframes and engines. The look a bit like a British class 150 or 210, but once you hear their unbelievable engine roar, you won't confuse them again. They've had their working life extended to last until the next tranche CAF built DMUs arrive, although continue to be pretty unreliable. Although my love for them has been eroded by having to use them as a form of transport, they're great fun to bash if you like that sort of thing :)

For an indication of their distinctive burble: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqBjaMZ2sik

The very last of the class 80 trains, built in the mid-seventies, can be found operating in four car configurations with two motor vehicles for reliability. As with most older UTA, CIE and NIR multiples, these are not fixed units. The driving vehicles could be chopped and changed with the trailers as was required, so additional mk. 2 carriages have been added removed from them throughout their working lives. You'll find the last class 80 (I think) on the Coleraine / Portrush shuttle, but they occasionally show up elsewhere.

There are three main routes in NI: Portadown - Belfast - Bangor is the busiest and best served corridor, with the largest number of commuters and is served by the C3K fleet. Belfast - Antrim - Ballymena - Coleraine / L'Derry is still due a lot of line improvements, but provides scenic and decent enough service to the Maiden City. It is, however, slower than taking the bus. If and when the work is fully completed, a 90 minute journey time from Belfast to Derry is on the cards, but that's a long way off.

Wikipedia has decent enough info on all the units and lines.
 

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Gatwicks have been out of service for a while now and are stored in two locations - Lisburn and York Road. The DBSO is also at York Road, having never been used.

80s are confined to the Belfast Central - Carrickfergus/Larne run.
 
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NIR have 5 operational diesel locomotives. Out of Iarnrod Eireann/Irish Rail's fleet of thirty-four 201 class loco's, two of them (8208 and 209) are owned by Northern Ireland Railways and they share Belfast/Dublin Enterprise duties (very, very occasionally seen on the Dublin/Cork Intercity route).

The other three locos are the 111 class. They're Northern Irish cousins of Irish Rail's 071 class. Since the removal of the Gatwicks, the most anyone will see of these locos outside of York Road works are on ballast and permanent way duties.
 

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all this info is making me want to go over to Ireland and try out the trains . Ive been on the CAF DMUS wouldnt say i was excited by them .:lol:
 

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all this info is making me want to go over to Ireland and try out the trains . Ive been on the CAF DMUS wouldnt say i was excited by them .:lol:

No-one is excited by them, but then again the majority of NIR passengers were fed up of the "excitement" (aka noise, unreliability, slowness) of their predecessors. NIR has seen phenomenal growth in passenger numbers; the Troubles created the perfect storm of prolonged under-investment, deterioration of infrastructure and falling passenger numbers. NIR have turned it around, but that does mean the enthusiasts can be a little disappointed by the modern, efficient service.

Let us know if you plan a trip; there's plenty of collective knowledge here to help you have a great experience.
 

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Yeah i want to see Ireland a bit more . I remember seeing a loco hauled to Sligo at Dublin Connolly , ill never see that again .
 

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You need to make hay while the (English Electric) sun shines. The DEMUs on NIR won't last much longer and once they're gone traction interest in Ireland is pretty much vanished.

You can't go wrong with Irish tours though if you can organise yourself to be there for one. The RPSI do some great and very reasonably priced mainline runs. For example on 8th August the Steam Enterprise is running from Whitehead to Dublin behind 131 year old 0-6-0 no 186, returning north with the mighty LMS NCC 2-6-4T no 4. This is only £25! Also I went on a superb diesel tour from Belfast to Tralee and back in May (actually started/ended at Whitehead, but the start was too early for me to get out to Whitehead for). This was hauled by 2 of the older GMs (an NIR one to Dublin, and an IR one on to Tralee) and was an absolute blast for 18 very enjoyable hours.
 
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