Holgate, York

[caliwag]

Aologies if this happening elsewhere... I'm told the works have been delayed due technical complexity with the future signal works, which seems reasonable...it can't be that easy to slot in another running line these days (I am not being cynical...OK in the old days it'd be done over a couple of nights and no-one would have noticed), but I have spotted that the two ex parcels sidings have been lifted (was this just demo boys at a loose end? they were not in the way of the real works). Now only two years ago they were a stabling point for thunderbirds and standbys for excursions being host to 33s, 47s, 57s and the odd 20...so where now I ask for these machines. I had hoped for a rebuilt South shed roundhouse...just to keep em dry really! LOL
OK it was a dream, but why lift the most interesting sidings? bah!
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Haha...not quite sure why it says York Holgate york...I think I was thinking of Box Junction Box...no I wasn't. Just ale boys, just ale! Still a valid comment though surely...er OK.
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Just a local update...

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/9132296.York_to_get_depot_for_train_work/?ref=eb

 

[142094]

Quite a lot of land in that area that always looks disused - suprised that some of it hasn't been looked at for possible inclusion in HS2.

At least it is raiwlay related development and not more flats/offices.

 

[caliwag]

Yes, it is part of the 'so-called' teardrop project for York (shape not emotions), but it's a strange part of the City. Noise has been made about houses, shops (what?) and offices and even a bus station...Jeez. I hope they are employing some damn good urban designers and not just giving the land to some w++nky developers! Have you seen the first phase of 'houses'...soulless disaster.

It should stay railway and industrial...rant over peeps!

 

[9K43]

We had a job at HM which signed on at 16:20 to take 6L44 to York, drop of at Dringhouses and LE to York shed.
When we got to the shed we had to wait from 19:20hrs to 23:45 before our back working arrived at YYs.
Across from the shed was a brand new HST shed and it was in use.
Some years later when the NRM took over, I noticed the HST Shed had been demolished and new houses built on that site.
The clock goes full circle and he we are building a new shed to repair wagons.
What a waste of good money.
By the way this 6L44 was called the York lodger, as it ran 5 days per week.
The one good thing was that York shed had a good TV to watch, and good chip shop near by.

 

[caliwag]

Ha Ho Hum...stabling sidings replaced. Temporary stabling in Hull bay.

 

[RichW1]

All the interesting sidings have disappeared with de-industrialisation of the heavy variety...such a shame as these sidings used to fascinate me. As always, they'll regret losing this land to housing in the future and then say the railway doesn't have enough capacity. Compared to any major European country, the UK has the smallest sidings anywhere. The banks of stabling points and sidings abroad is how the UK used to be. With expansion of freight we'll need more track, same for IC's. Passing loop opportunities have been removed, sidings lifted and halts at most stations removed when it would be a lot less tight and stressful with turnarounds to keep them. No sense...everything being calculated in pounds instead of practicality and service requirements.

 

[DarloRich]

All the interesting sidings have disappeared with de-industrialisation of the heavy variety...such a shame as these sidings used to fascinate me. As always, they'll regret losing this land to housing in the future and then say the railway doesn't have enough capacity. Compared to any major European country, the UK has the smallest sidings anywhere. The banks of stabling points and sidings abroad is how the UK used to be. With expansion of freight we'll need more track, same for IC's. Passing loop opportunities have been removed, sidings lifted and halts at most stations removed when it would be a lot less tight and stressful with turnarounds to keep them. No sense...everything being calculated in pounds instead of practicality and service requirements.

There are two sets of sidings been discussed here i think:

1) York Parcel sidings ( and spur) which has come out during the construction of the fourth line into the station from Holgate Junction. This should allow access from the up and down leeds to platforms 10/11 ( an provide capacity boost generaly) I understand these sidings will go back in when the work is complete

2) The collection of sidings forming York South Sidings/Up Yard, The former Fastline Wagon repair complex, The Engineers Triangle, the NRM site, Leeman Road Engineers sidings, Klondyke Sidings and York North yard. These, roughly, form the tear drop.

 

[caliwag]

Parcel sidings back as we speak, although I rather hoped they'd rebuild the South shed roundhouse! By the way, why are they called Klondyke sidings?

 

[Oldrowley]

There are two sets of sidings been discussed here i think:

1) York Parcel sidings ( and spur) which has come out during the construction of the fourth line into the station from Holgate Junction. This should allow access from the up and down leeds to platforms 10/11 ( an provide capacity boost generaly) I understand these sidings will go back in when the work is complete

2) The collection of sidings forming York South Sidings/Up Yard, The former Fastline Wagon repair complex, The Engineers Triangle, the NRM site, Leeman Road Engineers sidings, Klondyke Sidings and York North yard. These, roughly, form the tear drop.

The two 'parcels' sidings used for loco layovers have indeed been reinstated using new materials and connected more or less where they were previously as can be seen from the attached photo. It is debatable whether platform 10 is included in the scheme as there is no evidence apparent that a new connection other than to platform 11 is being made. The photo is taken from platform 10/11 with the line on the left being to 10 and the right to 11. Maybe they are preparing the link to 11 before dealing with 10. It would seem very shortsighted if 10 is not to be included in the scheme after all. A new gantry for electric wires has been erected beyond the pile of aggregate seen in rhs mid-picture.

 

[Oldrowley]

The track installation work on the Holgate 4th Line has moved along rapidly and the new pointwork on the station side of the avoiding line is in place awaiting ballast etc to give direct access to Platforms 10 and 11 from the Down Leeds Line. New overhead gantries have been erected in preparation for wiring work. As mentioned by a previous poster, technical difficulties with the signalling will cause a delay in commissioning of about two months from the original August Bank Holiday planned date.

 

[DaveNewcastle]

Its very pleaseing to see this project moving forward at last. The elimination of even quite small bottlenecks such as this helps the resilience of the network overall.

Its also re-assuring that the new line, short as it is, is equipped with OHLE which would become necessary if ever Colton Junction to Leeds were to be electrified (as well as supporting electrics on Plat 10 & 11 that crossover to the ECML as at present).

 

[NightatLaira]

Must say - the canterlevered gantry really does give it a 'WCML' feel... but as Dave said, very good to see they're making the new bits electrified. Just adds even more weight behind a possible future electrification to from Colton to Neville Hill.