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GTR Short Fare Advice

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JTrain97

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Hi all,

I'll start this thread by holding my hands up and saying that I deliberately short-fared a journey whereby I purchased an open return ticket between Bedford and Flitwick instead of Bedford and Farringdon.

I was travelling back to Bedford when a Ticket Inspector came aboard to check for tickets. Since the train was travelling between Harlington and Flitwick at the time, I showed them my ticket but panicked and lied by saying that I had just missed my stop at Flitwick and just alighted to go return the other way. As you would expect, the inspector kept asking if I had travelled from London but I maintained my lie, remaining calm and polite throughout.

The inspector asked if I could pay there and then but the one truth is that, unfortunately, I did not have my wallet on me that day so could not do so and told that to them. As a result, the inspector issued me with a Witness Statement Receipt and said that my account would be investigated.

The context is that I have been issued a penalty fare for the same action (Bedford to Flitwick) a year previously. I had not done this again since, until recently where I gave into another lapse in judgment for a couple of recent journeys, and evidently was caught.

I know to expect a NIP letter in the post but am extremely worried about the outcome of this (sleepless nights etc) due to my previous offence.

Would GTR still be likely to offer an out of court settlement, will they be likely to investigate my travel history, and how should I respond when I receive the NIP letter? I have absolutely learned my lesson and know to obviously never do this again - I am deeply regretful of my actions and know there is no excuse and that I should not have done this.

In advance, I was planning on saying the following but understand that my response will depend on what the letter says - your suggestions are greatly appreciated:

"Dear Prosecutions Manager,

I value the opportunity you have given me to respond to the letter dated ********** with reference ************.

On Wednesday 30th April, I was stopped by a Revenue Inspection Officer between Harlington and Flitwick and was unable to produce a valid ticket for the entire duration of my journey.

I offer no excuse for the above. I entered the service at Farringdon towards Bedford. I made a short-sighted decision when not purchasing a ticket for the entire journey. When arriving at Flitwick, I panicked and told the Revenue Inspection Officer that I was only travelling between Bedford and Flitwick and had just missed my stop. In hindsight, I should have told the correct journey to the Officer and purchased the correct ticket in the first place.

I have taken time to reflect on this decision following the investigation and I won’t undertake any action like this again. I regularly use the railway for work purposes and wish to continue to contribute to the upkeep and maintenance. I understand the impact of my actions on the railway network, and the impact that fair evasion has across the industry.

I apologise wholeheartedly for my actions and for the time it has taken you to investigate and contact me. This incident has given me a wake-up call and made me realise the gravity of the mistake I made. I will ensure I always purchase the full correct ticket for any future journeys I take using the rail network.

I would be grateful for the opportunity to pay the full and correct fare for this journey and any administrative costs that I have created so that I may settle this matter without the need for court action.

Yours faithfully,"

I will post the redacted letter when it arrives.
Thanks in advance to everyone.
 
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Haywain

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I made a short-sighted decision when not purchasing a ticket for the entire journey.
Really? You say that you were Penalty Fared for this before, so it isn't a "short sighted decision" but an established pattern of behaviour. That will be easy for GTR to see so don't try fobbing them off with this sort of nonsense.
 

JTrain97

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Hi all,

I have now received the below NIP letter from GTR.

Any advice on how I should respond would be most welcome.

Should I highlight my regret for lying to the revenue protection officer, and also explain how I passed the barriers at Farringdon?
 

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Hadders

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I suggest a short, concise reply that mentions:

- That you are sorry for what has happened
- What you have learned from the incident
- Ask if they will consider settling the matter without going to court
- Offer to pay the outstanding fare and GTR's administrative costs in dealing with the matter

You need to be aware that as you have come to GTR's attention before an out of court settlement is less likely but probably not impossible. If you post a draft reply in this thread forum members will oroof read it for you.
 

30907

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Should I highlight my regret for lying to the revenue protection officer, and also explain how I passed the barriers at Farringdon?
On these specific points: no to both.

They will not be desperately bothered about the lie (it's par for the course) and how you got onto the platform isn't important :)
 

MotCO

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You may want to explain why you didn't learn your lesson last year, but have now. That will be a tough ask, but looking at it from GTR's point of view, why would they believe that you are now a reformed character when you you didn't learn the error of your ways last year.

Are you entitled to any Railcards which would reduce the cost of travelling; if so, maybe buy one and tell them that you have now seen how you can legally reduce the cost of your journeys.
 

JTrain97

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Thanks for all your responses. Here is a draft of my reply:

"Dear Prosecutions Manager,

I am writing in response to your letter dated 21st August 2025, reference X.

I would like to sincerely apologise for travelling without holding the correct ticket on 30th April 2025. I regret my actions and fully understand the seriousness of this incident. It has really been a wake-up call for me, and I have learned a valuable lesson.

I regularly use the railway for work and I know how essential it is as a public service that must be funded to operate efficiently and be maintained. I also understand the impact that fare evasion has on the network and on other passengers. Reflecting upon this incident, I know and commit to never repeat this behaviour again and will ensure that I always purchase and hold the correct ticket for any future journeys.

I would be extremely grateful if you would consider allowing me to settle this matter without the need for court action. I am willing to pay the outstanding fare together with any administrative costs.

Thank you for considering my letter.

Yours faithfully,"

Should I elaborate on the journey that I did actually take so that they know what the full fare should be, or will they just assume the fare cost from London?

Any other suggestions are welcome - thank you
 
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