Grand Central Coach F roped off seats

[harz99]

As far as I am aware it’s always been the case to having seats segregated off for crew PNBs.

Also to reiterate, the 8 seats in coach F are indeed for crew to take their breaks. Given the short turn around the crew currently have it’s unavoidable to have their breaks on trains.

It’s been raised many times and I know for ASLEF they are wanting to have discussions around this but as we know nothing is a quick fix on the railway.

Personally it’s not ideal but it’s very restrictive in having alternative arrangements.

How many daily workings does this happen on? I've travelled in F a few times from Kings Cross or York to Hartlepool and not noticed it.

 

[azOOOOOma]

I don’t think they’re able to use the cab or crumple zone this sitting on a saloon is the only option.

 

[MP33]

I watched a documentary about Australian railways. There, the crew have use of the front carriage. Obviously, trains are considerably longer than here and dropping crew off at a station. Would leave them out of use, until a return train arrives from a long distance away.

 

[Simon75]

I watched a documentary about Australian railways. There, the crew have use of the front carriage. Obviously, trains are considerably longer than here and dropping crew off at a station. Would leave them out of use, until a return train arrives from a long distance away.

From a trip in Australia (Melbourne to Sydney) the crew swapped over at a border town

Back in England, ive seen crew change on one service ar Manchester Picadilly

 

[dk1]

Having a booked PNB onboard a train would not be acceptable at my TOC.