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First Time on LNER Azuma to York - Any Tips?

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Millsy_2102

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Hi everyone,

My family and I – that's my mum, my brother, and myself (a party of three) – are planning our first ever trip on an LNER 'Azuma' train, heading up to York! We're aiming to travel on Monday, August 11th, 2025, for a few nights, although we haven't actually booked our tickets yet. We'll be using my dad's Southern staff pass, which gives us a fantastic 70-75% discount on train travel across the UK, making trips like this much more accessible and a real treat for us.

We are hoping to arrive in York between 15:00 and 16:00 so we can drop our bags off at the hotel and have the rest of the evening to explore. Given the journey time is roughly two hours, we'll be looking to catch a train from London King's Cross between 13:00 and 14:00.

As this is our first time on an Azuma, we'd love to tap into the collective wisdom of this forum to help us make the most of our journey and avoid any surprises. We're looking for any specific insights or advice from those who regularly travel on LNER Azumas, especially on the London to York route, or who have experience with family travel (especially small groups like ours) on these services.

Here are some specific areas where we'd really appreciate your detailed input:

  • Booking Strategy (for 11/8/25 with staff discount): Since we haven't booked yet and it's a Monday in August, would you recommend booking as far in advance as possible even with a staff pass, or is there more flexibility closer to the date? Given our discount, is there any optimal time to book (e.g., when Advance fares might normally drop, which could still influence the base fare before discount)?
  • Train Recommendation: Based on our desired arrival time of 15:00-16:00, which LNER service would you recommend we aim for from London King's Cross? Are there any particular services to be aware of during that time (e.g., often busier, a different train set, etc.)?
  • Seat Reservations - To Book or Not to Book?: This is a big one for us. We aren't sure whether to reserve seats for our party of three. We've heard that sometimes the reservation system can be unreliable or that people ignore the reservations. What's your experience with the electronic seat reservation displays on the Azuma? Is it a reliable system for holding our seats? As staff pass holders, we have the option to make a free reservation, but if the system is not reliable, we'd be just as happy to find an unreserved carriage. We're specifically interested in finding out if there are any designated unreserved carriages on these trains, and if so, which ones they are and how busy they get on a Monday.
  • What if we miss our train? This is a key concern for us. If we have reserved seats but miss our intended train from King's Cross, would we be able to get reserved seats on the next available service, or would we have to try our luck with unreserved seating? Any advice on the best way to handle this situation with a staff pass would be a massive help.
  • Onboard Experience & Family-Friendly Coaches (for 3 people):
    • What's the general atmosphere like in Standard Class on a typical Monday afternoon?
    • Are there any coaches generally considered better for families – perhaps those with more tables (for us to sit opposite each other), or traditionally quieter zones (if such a thing exists in Standard)?
    • We've seen some older trains had designated quiet coaches; do Azumas have anything similar in Standard? If so, are they usually strictly enforced?
  • Catering: We'll bring some snacks, but we're curious about the on-board catering. We don't know what to expect in terms of prices, so we'd love to hear from anyone who has used the service recently – how do the prices compare to what you'd find in a station or a high street cafe? What's the quality like for the cost?
    • We've heard about a 'Let's Eat at Your Seat' service. How efficient and reliable is it in practice for Standard Class passengers? Or is it better to just go to the Cafe Bar in Coach G? Are payments exclusively card-only, or is cash still accepted?
  • Seating & Comfort:
    • We're interested in the comfort and legroom in Standard Class for a journey of around two hours. Are the seats comfortable for a longer journey?
    • Are there any "bad" seats to avoid (e.g., restricted views, facing backwards if that's an issue for some, next to loud areas like the cafe bar doors or toilets)?
  • Technology & Connectivity:
    • We'll have phones and tablets, so access to power sockets is important. We've read that there are power sockets at every seat in Standard Class – are these generally reliable?
    • How is the free LNER Wi-Fi in Standard Class? Is it usually stable enough for Browse and light streaming (we'll download content beforehand, but it's good to know)? Are there any connection quirks or areas where signal is typically weak?
  • Luggage Storage:
    • We'll each have a backpack, and one small carry-on sized suitcase between the three of us. We're wondering how easy it is to find space in the overhead racks, or the larger racks at the end of coaches? We're hoping to keep our backpacks near us and store the suitcase. Are there any specific coaches that tend to have more luggage space, or is it fairly uniform across Standard Class?
    • Is it advisable to board early to secure luggage space, particularly on a Monday afternoon?
  • Arrival at York Station:
    • Any specific tips for alighting an Azuma at York? Are platforms generally long enough for all coaches, or should we be aware of any short platform stops on the approach?
    • How well-signposted are connections within York station, or the exits towards the city centre? Is there a particular exit that's best for central York attractions (e.g., Minster, Shambles)?
Thank you in advance for any and all advice you can offer. We're really looking forward to a smooth and enjoyable first Azuma experience to York!


 
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Hi everyone,

My family and I – that's my mum, my brother, and myself (a party of three) – are planning our first ever trip on an LNER 'Azuma' train, heading up to York! We're aiming to travel on Monday, August 11th, 2025, for a few nights, although we haven't actually booked our tickets yet. We'll be using my dad's Southern staff pass, which gives us a fantastic 70-75% discount on train travel across the UK, making trips like this much more accessible and a real treat for us.

We are hoping to arrive in York between 15:00 and 16:00 so we can drop our bags off at the hotel and have the rest of the evening to explore. Given the journey time is roughly two hours, we'll be looking to catch a train from London King's Cross between 13:00 and 14:00.

As this is our first time on an Azuma, we'd love to tap into the collective wisdom of this forum to help us make the most of our journey and avoid any surprises. We're looking for any specific insights or advice from those who regularly travel on LNER Azumas, especially on the London to York route, or who have experience with family travel (especially small groups like ours) on these services.

Here are some specific areas where we'd really appreciate your detailed input:

  • Booking Strategy (for 11/8/25 with staff discount): Since we haven't booked yet and it's a Monday in August, would you recommend booking as far in advance as possible even with a staff pass, or is there more flexibility closer to the date? Given our discount, is there any optimal time to book (e.g., when Advance fares might normally drop, which could still influence the base fare before discount)?
As soon as possible given the date.
  • Train Recommendation: Based on our desired arrival time of 15:00-16:00, which LNER service would you recommend we aim for from London King's Cross? Are there any particular services to be aware of during that time (e.g., often busier, a different train set, etc.)?
Either should be reasonable. You can check estimated loadings at https://www.railwaydata.co.uk/loadings/gbr/?TLC=KGX (the results given are for weekday services).
  • Seat Reservations - To Book or Not to Book?: This is a big one for us. We aren't sure whether to reserve seats for our party of three. We've heard that sometimes the reservation system can be unreliable or that people ignore the reservations. What's your experience with the electronic seat reservation displays on the Azuma? Is it a reliable system for holding our seats? As staff pass holders, we have the option to make a free reservation, but if the system is not reliable, we'd be just as happy to find an unreserved carriage. We're specifically interested in finding out if there are any designated unreserved carriages on these trains, and if so, which ones they are and how busy they get on a Monday.
It's better to reserve and not need them, than not reserve and not be sat together. I find the reservations systems on LNER to be very reliable in any case.
  • What if we miss our train? This is a key concern for us. If we have reserved seats but miss our intended train from King's Cross, would we be able to get reserved seats on the next available service, or would we have to try our luck with unreserved seating? Any advice on the best way to handle this situation with a staff pass would be a massive help.
You won't automatically get reserved seats. You can reserve seats online at https://www.lner.co.uk/travel-information/make-a-reservation/, or at a ticket office. There are unreserved coaches (C and U); if youre starting at London King's Cross, the train starts here, so as long as you're one of the first to board, you should be able to nab a table seat.
  • Onboard Experience & Family-Friendly Coaches (for 3 people):
    • What's the general atmosphere like in Standard Class on a typical Monday afternoon?
A mix of families, people taking the train for work, people heading back to London after their weekend at home, etc. At 3-4pm on a weekday it should be convivial.
  • Are there any coaches generally considered better for families – perhaps those with more tables (for us to sit opposite each other), or traditionally quieter zones (if such a thing exists in Standard)?
  • We've seen some older trains had designated quiet coaches; do Azumas have anything similar in Standard? If so, are they usually strictly enforced?
It's all personal preference. Catering is in coaches B/G, and they can feel a little busier at times. I personally like coach A because it has the fewest people walking to/from toilets, buffet car, etc. There are designated quiet coaches (B/H), but do bear in mind that people might be a bit irked if you start chatting with your brother etc. They are not normally strictly enforced, but that's no guarantee, and depends on the guard/train manager.
  • Catering:We'll bring some snacks, but we're curious about the on-board catering. We don't know what to expect in terms of prices, so we'd love to hear from anyone who has used the service recently – how do the prices compare to what you'd find in a station or a high street cafe? What's the quality like for the cost?
The menu including prices is online at https://www.lner.co.uk/our-trains/catering/. It's not much more expensive than in the station or a high street cafe. The hot food in standard is blast cooked in what you might think is a microwave. The bacon roll and the ham and cheese ciabatta will come out more soggy than anything. Sandwiches and cakes I've found to be decent enough.
  • We've heard about a 'Let's Eat at Your Seat' service. How efficient and reliable is it in practice for Standard Class passengers? Or is it better to just go to the Cafe Bar in Coach G? Are payments exclusively card-only, or is cash still accepted?
It isn't always switched on, but when it is I've always found it to be a reliable service. If you're in coach A and the cafe is in coach B, it's not far to walk though. The eat at your seat is card-only. I am not sure about the cafe bar actually, having only paid card there for a while now.
  • Seating & Comfort:
    • We're interested in the comfort and legroom in Standard Class for a journey of around two hours. Are the seats comfortable for a longer journey?
    • Are there any "bad" seats to avoid (e.g., restricted views, facing backwards if that's an issue for some, next to loud areas like the cafe bar doors or toilets)?
The seats on the Azume trains appear to split opinions. I've seen a lot of people describe them as 'ironing boards', and they don't have a great deal of padding. Personally, I've never had an issue, though will admit I prefer some other rolling stock's seats. If you book your tickets online and choose your own seats, you can choose forward-facing if you want. See above for avoiding toilets/cafe.
  • Technology & Connectivity:
    • We'll have phones and tablets, so access to power sockets is important. We've read that there are power sockets at every seat in Standard Class – are these generally reliable?
Yes they're reliable.
  • How is the free LNER Wi-Fi in Standard Class? Is it usually stable enough for Browse and light streaming (we'll download content beforehand, but it's good to know)? Are there any connection quirks or areas where signal is typically weak?
Yes it's fine for this. Like any long distance journey, there's times where the signal will be better than others.
  • Luggage Storage:
    • We'll each have a backpack, and one small carry-on sized suitcase between the three of us. We're wondering how easy it is to find space in the overhead racks, or the larger racks at the end of coaches? We're hoping to keep our backpacks near us and store the suitcase. Are there any specific coaches that tend to have more luggage space, or is it fairly uniform across Standard Class?
    • Is it advisable to board early to secure luggage space, particularly on a Monday afternoon?
There's generally plenty of room, especially the overhead racks. I'd advise boarding early for lots of reasons to be honest - get a good seat (if not reserved), get luggage sorted, get yourself comfy, etc.
  • Arrival at York Station:
    • Any specific tips for alighting an Azuma at York? Are platforms generally long enough for all coaches, or should we be aware of any short platform stops on the approach?
The platforms will be long enough.
  • How well-signposted are connections within York station, or the exits towards the city centre? Is there a particular exit that's best for central York attractions (e.g., Minster, Shambles)?
Pretty well-signed. You'll want the main exit with all the station shops etc. You can always ask a member of staff if you need a hand though - there'll be staff about.
Thank you in advance for any and all advice you can offer. We're really looking forward to a smooth and enjoyable first Azuma experience to York!


Hope you enjoy!
 

voyagerdude220

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Hi everyone,

My family and I – that's my mum, my brother, and myself (a party of three) – are planning our first ever trip on an LNER 'Azuma' train, heading up to York! We're aiming to travel on Monday, August 11th, 2025, for a few nights, although we haven't actually booked our tickets yet. We'll be using my dad's Southern staff pass, which gives us a fantastic 70-75% discount on train travel across the UK, making trips like this much more accessible and a real treat for us.

When you say you'll be using your Dad's Southern Staff pass- Do you all have staff passes in your own names as dependants of your Dad?
 

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Impressively elaborate research for a 2 hour train journey!

The wifi is pretty awful TBH. You will get a much better signal using a phone as hotspot.
 

Haywain

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Booking Strategy (for 11/8/25 with staff discount): Since we haven't booked yet and it's a Monday in August, would you recommend booking as far in advance as possible even with a staff pass, or is there more flexibility closer to the date? Given our discount, is there any optimal time to book (e.g., when Advance fares might normally drop, which could still influence the base fare before discount)?
If you are buying tickets at Priv rate it makes no difference when you buy them. There is no Priv discount on Advance tickets.
 

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There is no coach U on LNER services.
Ah yes, I was indeed thinking of other rolling stock!
If you are buying tickets at Priv rate it makes no difference when you buy them. There is no Priv discount on Advance tickets.
While true - it may be good to get a seat reservation in early if they want a table to sit together.
 

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Train Recommendation: Based on our desired arrival time of 15:00-16:00, which LNER service would you recommend we aim for from London King's Cross? Are there any particular services to be aware of during that time (e.g., often busier, a different train set, etc.)?
The 14:00 to Aberdeen is always a busy train. Of the trains in that time bracket the 13:06 from King's Cross is likely to be the quietest.
 

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As soon as possible given the date.

Either should be reasonable. You can check estimated loadings at https://www.railwaydata.co.uk/loadings/gbr/?TLC=KGX (the results given are for weekday services).

It's better to reserve and not need them, than not reserve and not be sat together. I find the reservations systems on LNER to be very reliable in any case.

You won't automatically get reserved seats. You can reserve seats online at https://www.lner.co.uk/travel-information/make-a-reservation/, or at a ticket office. There are unreserved coaches (C and U); if youre starting at London King's Cross, the train starts here, so as long as you're one of the first to board, you should be able to nab a table seat.

A mix of families, people taking the train for work, people heading back to London after their weekend at home, etc. At 3-4pm on a weekday it should be convivial.

It's all personal preference. Catering is in coaches B/G, and they can feel a little busier at times. I personally like coach A because it has the fewest people walking to/from toilets, buffet car, etc. There are designated quiet coaches (B/H), but do bear in mind that people might be a bit irked if you start chatting with your brother etc. They are not normally strictly enforced, but that's no guarantee, and depends on the guard/train manager.

The menu including prices is online at https://www.lner.co.uk/our-trains/catering/. It's not much more expensive than in the station or a high street cafe. The hot food in standard is blast cooked in what you might think is a microwave. The bacon roll and the ham and cheese ciabatta will come out more soggy than anything. Sandwiches and cakes I've found to be decent enough.

It isn't always switched on, but when it is I've always found it to be a reliable service. If you're in coach A and the cafe is in coach B, it's not far to walk though. The eat at your seat is card-only. I am not sure about the cafe bar actually, having only paid card there for a while now.

The seats on the Azume trains appear to split opinions. I've seen a lot of people describe them as 'ironing boards', and they don't have a great deal of padding. Personally, I've never had an issue, though will admit I prefer some other rolling stock's seats. If you book your tickets online and choose your own seats, you can choose forward-facing if you want. See above for avoiding toilets/cafe.

Yes they're reliable.

Yes it's fine for this. Like any long distance journey, there's times where the signal will be better than others.

There's generally plenty of room, especially the overhead racks. I'd advise boarding early for lots of reasons to be honest - get a good seat (if not reserved), get luggage sorted, get yourself comfy, etc.

The platforms will be long enough.

Pretty well-signed. You'll want the main exit with all the station shops etc. You can always ask a member of staff if you need a hand though - there'll be staff about.

Hope you enjoy!
Thank you, we will be arriving at St Pancras Int'l on the Javelin and walking to Kings Cross so we'll still have awhile at Kings X before our train. Was going to travel on Grand Central, but my Dad's friend (who does the journey a lot) said the Azuma is much more enjoyable.
 
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arriving at St Pancreas Int'l
St Pancras, no letter e.
it may be good to get a seat reservation in early if they want a table to sit together.
Seat reservations can be made on the LNER website or app without the need to buy a ticket first. Just enter 00000 as the ticket number. You do need an account though.
 
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