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Expectations of graffiti being removed when reported

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MrJeeves

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What's needed is a visible staff presence; this is not only possible by having a traditional Guard, but can also be achieved by having a [...] On Board Supervisor (OBS) on GTR Southern, etc.
Yes, they're quite visible when the train departs and you look through the rear cab window. :p

OBSes are great, when they actually do have a visible presence. GTR rarely do, and when I see those which do leave the rear cab they always seem to be Southern ex-guards or Southern ex-RPIs.

I've never seen a staff member on an HS1 journey, either.
 
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I love Banksy.

I'm probably going to get shot down in flames for admitting it but I rather enjoy 'clever' graffiti. It can be both artistic and amusing.
I thought I'd get shot down for saying I don't mind graffiti either but it wasn't the case! :D

The same tag sprayed in a hundred places, that can get in the bin. But actual artistic pieces I'm fine with. I would confine it to brick walls or similar though.
 

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I thought I'd get shot down for saying I don't mind graffiti either but it wasn't the case! :D

The same tag sprayed in a hundred places, that can get in the bin. But actual artistic pieces I'm fine with. I would confine it to brick walls or similar though.
The problem is that the graffiti community is completely uncontrollable. Most of them stick to their unwritten rules within the group and only create artistic symbols (whether others accept it), until someone starts spraying political, profanity, sexual and Nazi symbols - really not good.
 

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The problem is that the graffiti community is completely uncontrollable. Most of them stick to their unwritten rules within the group and only create artistic symbols (whether others accept it), until someone starts spraying political, profanity, sexual and Nazi symbols - really not good.
The fact that some people don’t mind something is neither here nor there. Some people don’t mind shop lifting, drink driving, dealing drugs……
 

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I thought I'd get shot down for saying I don't mind graffiti either but it wasn't the case! :D

The same tag sprayed in a hundred places, that can get in the bin. But actual artistic pieces I'm fine with. I would confine it to brick walls or similar though.

The surface of bricks is slightly porous. Once paint is applied it quickly soaks into the brick and can never be completely removed - it always leaves a shadow of the original graffito.
Personally, I would be very cross if someone marked my house or garden wall indelibly - even if it was, as enigmatically described above, somehow "artistic".
But that's just my opinion. Happy to hear others'.

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You must be very unlucky, or perhaps it’s a bigger problem down South? I’ve seen multiple freight trains today and barely noticed a wagon with any obstructive art on it. See my latest YouTube video as evidence.

I accept that Intermodal trains rarely carry vandalised containers, probably because terminals are very secure, and many boxes originate in China where there may be much less toleration. Construction traffic wagons are what I notice more as being hit; perhaps because of their flat sides and, because of the low value of the product, in less secure terminals. Next time I pass the stone terminals at Northampton and Wellingborough I'll have a check, but it seems a very high. proportion. Apart from Construction (and the similar wagons used by HS2 and Network Rail) and Intermodal there isn't much other freight.

Application has moved on from car-shop aerosols through the specialist ones designed for accurate application to roller applicatiom. a recent passing observation. Why stop after you've done just one wagon? There's still plenty of paint left in the can...
 
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The surface of bricks is slightly porous. Once paint is applied it quickly soaks into the brick and can never be completely removed - it always leaves a shadow of the original graffito.
Personally, I would be very cross if someone marked my house or garden wall indelibly - even if it was, as enigmatically described above, somehow "artistic".
But that's just my opinion. Happy to hear others'.

I'm with you here. If they're going to put a mural on my house, better make it one of those communist ones with dignified square-jawed workers and a slogan to match. Anything less would be an insult to brickwork.

(Side note, neither communist nor an apologist for the current Russian government. Just a big fan of that aesthetic.)

To keep this on the subject of railways, though, a guy who lived in my parents' village did get a lovely scene with a steam engine and a level crossing painted on his garage door. He left the house to the people who looked after him, as he was badly injured in a car crash and needed full time carers, and they maintain the artwork. We need more murals in our lives -- just ones that are planned, of uplifting subjects (I'm very uncomfortable with mural tours in Northern Ireland, as my mother is from the Protestant community) and aspirational or bucolic in tone. With all the commercial clutter we need better aesthetic choices.
 

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The surface of bricks is slightly porous. Once paint is applied it quickly soaks into the brick and can never be completely removed - it always leaves a shadow of the original graffito.
Personally, I would be very cross if someone marked my house or garden wall indelibly - even if it was, as enigmatically described above, somehow "artistic".
But that's just my opinion. Happy to hear others'.

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I agree but I also don't view the brick wall on my house as the same as the brick wall going through a railway tunnel for example.

Perhaps legally they are the same but I don't think the public view them as the same.
 

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I've never seen a staff member on an HS1 journey, either.
Slightly offtopic but I see a member of staff on every journey I take on HS1 - there are ticket checks on pretty much every train in my experience
 
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