Evacuation in emergency - escape routes blocked

[Meerkat]

In an emergency surely you just kick/chuck the luggage out of the way.

Accepting all the arguments for a panicked evacuation being very unlikely, if it did happen that luggage would be dangerous - its not easy to kick things out the way if you are being barged from behind. The first person is pushed over the luggage and then the crush pushes other people on top of them.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Accepting all the arguments for a panicked evacuation being very unlikely, if it did happen that luggage would be dangerous - its not easy to kick things out the way if you are being barged from behind. The first person is pushed over the luggage and then the crush pushes other people on top of them.

Then people would faceplant the ballast.

A panicked evacuation really must be avoided. Under just about no circumstances is it the right thing.

 

[The exile]

About the only situation where this is likely to be the most serious problem is a stampede off the train (for whatever reason) at a station.

 

[Meerkat]

About the only situation where this is likely to be the most serious problem is a stampede off the train (for whatever reason) at a station.

Not necessarily. Anything bad happening at one end of the coach could lead to a crush to get out the other end to the next coach. A dramatic, smoky, battery fire or violent altercation for example. Panic is contagious and escalates rapidly

 

[The exile]

True - I was thinking of leaving the train rather than a need to get to the next carriage quickly.

 

[Horizon22]

I like how they have a contactless reader there, so if it wasn't closed and there was a fire, you have no excuse to not tap out while running for your life. Priorities!

That is the old Romford exit before lifts were installed. That yellow gating no longer exists, there is a now a standard fire escape exit "push" barrier and the Oyster reader is switched off.

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Sorry do not agree .i hate travelling on cattle trucks but that is the reality of travelling by train on many occasions.
I find the attitude to safety mind blowing as the industry is alway crowing about it, hold a handrail, do not slip. Maybe what is required is a fire on a train where people are killed or injured to make people wake up.

You can disagree all you like but rolling stock is subject to a number of strict regulations - including fire safety - and you are imagining a prolem that simply doesn't exist.

People can move,maybe with difficulty. If luggage is blocking the aisles you cannot that is the difference.
Regarding car travel the mass introduction of 10mph speed limits is not so far away with the mass intoduction of 20mph across all of Wales , London and elsewhere . Next you wil have to have a person walking with a red flag in front of the vehicles

That is simply a conspiracy theory.

 

[Russel]

This was actually something I was thinking about yesterday, while crammed into a Voyager vestibule that resembled a tin of sardines...

Every so often the vestibule filled with the smell of burning brake pads, I'm guessing one was dragging, but it did make me think how long would an emergency evacuation take and how we wouldn't even be able to move to the next carriage, should an emergency situation arise...

 

[dk1]

Every so often the vestibule filled with the smell of burning brake pads, I'm guessing one was dragging, but it did make me think how long would an emergency evacuation take and how we wouldn't even be able to move to the next carriage, should an emergency situation arise...

Chances of it ever happening are ridiculously slim & every incident is so different. I wouldn’t bother stressing myself.

 

[Cowley]

Yep. And on that note I think we’re done here.

Thanks everyone.