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class395rules

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Hi

just been wondering what does it mean when it says platform 13F / 14F for example at Edinburgh Waverley. I can see platforms 13 and 14 but not 13F or 14F.


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platform 13F / 14F for example at Edinburgh Waverley. I can see platforms 13 and 14 but not 13F or 14F
A station with terminal platforms
The train is leaving from the front train on the platform, if there is already a train in the platform (sometimes there is not)
 

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Thank you the response. I had a feeling F stood for Front and that was the case. Many thanks.

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Hi, I've never seen that when I've been in Waverley - the CIS tends to show 'FRONT TRAIN' or 'REAR TRAIN' to denote which train goes where

The only lettered platforms are 8E, 9E, 8W, 9W
 

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What he said. Sometimes, they'll put two trains in a platform. It may be because there's no space, or because a train is dividing into two portions. So they use F to denote the front portion and R to do denote the rear portion. At the station, it will say something like "Front 2 carriages" or "Rear 3 carriages" on the boards to advise that this is the case.

It's actually very common in Edinburgh Waverley and Glasgow Central; busy terminal stations where trains do join and divide quite a lot throughout the day. I'm sure it's commonplace elsewhere as well.
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Hi, I've never seen that when I've been in Waverley - the CIS tends to show 'FRONT TRAIN' or 'REAR TRAIN' to denote which train goes where

The only lettered platforms are 8E, 9E, 8W, 9W

They may show F and R on Live Departure Boards, but you're right. Edinburgh Waverley tends to say "Front/Rear x coaches". Furthermore, they tend to only announce one train on a platform at a time in Edinburgh. So a train leaving an hour away may have a platform assigned, but one leaving in 20 minutes may not yet because another train is currently using the platform. Of course, if there's two in quick succession they've got little choice but to announce them both simultaneously. On the other hand, Glasgow Central announces trains as they become available regardless of how many are in the platform, so you'll often get two trains boarding at the same time which can cause confusion. I've even seen them use "middle 3 coaches" once or twice on the Ayrshire/Inverclyde platforms.

Interestingly, at Sheffield, 3A effectively means "rear of Platform 3" and 3B effectively means "front of Platform 3". Same for P4. I've always thought that was a weird way of doing it.
 

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It's actually very common in Edinburgh Waverley and Glasgow Central; busy terminal stations where trains do join and divide quite a lot throughout the day. I'm sure it's commonplace elsewhere as well.

It's common at Queen street as well.
 

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Interestingly, at Sheffield, 3A effectively means "rear of Platform 3" and 3B effectively means "front of Platform 3". Same for P4. I've always thought that was a weird way of doing it.

Maybe it's a Scottish and English thing. I can think of loads of stations with plaforms divided into A and B, but none where F and R are used.
 

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On the other hand, Glasgow Central announces trains as they become available regardless of how many are in the platform, so you'll often get two trains boarding at the same time which can cause confusion. I've even seen them use "middle 3 coaches" once or twice on the Ayrshire/Inverclyde platform
Network Rail advised FSR to avoid using the term "middle" (as they had no platform signs for this)
Instead they should announce the front train initially and then once that train has departed announce the next front and rear trains, from that same platform
 

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Interestingly, at Sheffield, 3A effectively means "rear of Platform 3" and 3B effectively means "front of Platform 3". Same for P4. I've always thought that was a weird way of doing it.

I always assumed it was for consistency with the through platforms, which all have A as the south end and B as the north end.
 

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Maybe it's a Scottish and English thing. I can think of loads of stations with plaforms divided into A and B, but none where F and R are used.

I'm sure King's Cross in London uses front and rear train as well.
 
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