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District Train Doors Stuck Open

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rmt4ever

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Currently on a District train at Ealing Broadway.

AIUI, as with most modern air conditioned rolling stock, the doors usually close after a short period of time to allow the air con/heating to work efficiently. They can be opened with a press of a button by a passenger.

But on this train it appears to not be the case.

You can hear from the noise from the air con in the train ceiling that its working overtime, I assume to try and keep the carriages cool. Obviously it is a wasted effort as the cold air is just flowing straight out of all the permanently open doors.

I use the Underground often, and out of the surface lines that use these types of trains I experience this most often on the District line. Hardly ever on the H&C from Hammersmith when I use that (the doors there close after a short time to help maintain a comfortable interior temperature).

I remember one day last year during the 40 degree unbearable heatwave the same thing happened on a District Line train I was on. Similarly, in freezing winter on above ground stations the doors have been stuck on open when paused for a few minutes and it has been perishingly cold, with the heating blowing relentlessly to no effect as it just goes outside.

My question, why does this seem to happen so often on the District but not the H and C lines? Is it something to do with the stock assigned to those lines?

And why doesn’t TFL do something to fix this? It is terrible both for passenger comfort, and also for the environment, using electricity to cool/heat the train when it is just all pouring outside through the many open doors.
 
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All S Stock trains operate in the same manner.
Doors can be kept open by the driver operating the “auto door close” override, particularly useful at very busy stations.
Some stations have this inhibited automatically, although Ealing Broadway isn’t one of them.
 

rmt4ever

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All S Stock trains operate in the same manner.
Doors can be kept open by the driver operating the “auto door close” override, particularly useful at very busy stations.
Some stations have this inhibited automatically, although Ealing Broadway isn’t one of them.
I see. So why might this have been selected here? It wasn't particularly busy.. maybe by mistake? But that doesn't explain why this happens so often on the District line, but not so much on the Hammersmith line :?:
 

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I was on a S stock the other day and noticed that whilst all other doors closed automatically after a while, the doors adjacent to the larger side of the area for wheelchair users (the side of the divider with the four seats rather than three) remained open throughout. I couldn’t see the other area to see whether it was intentional or just an issue at that doorway.
 

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I was on a S stock the other day and noticed that whilst all other doors closed automatically after a while, the doors adjacent to the larger side of the area for wheelchair users (the side of the divider with the four seats rather than three) remained open throughout. I couldn’t see the other area to see whether it was intentional or just an issue at that doorway.
I can't remember from where I learned it, but you have reminded me that the S Stock is indeed programmed to handle door closure for the accessible areas differently.
 

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I can't remember from where I learned it, but you have reminded me that the S Stock is indeed programmed to handle door closure for the accessible areas differently.
I'm not on trains but was curious, found the S stock handbook on SharePoint and states:

"The wheelchair access doors will not auto close if an object is detected in
the stand back area. "
 

DavyCrocket

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The doors by the wheelchair area do undead have a beam sensor, so it is likely that was defective or beam was broken within the time period
 

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If anyone's interested, there is a detailed write up of S Stock door operation in this link from the LURS website and also attached below.
 

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