class 313 reducing to 9 diagrams

[that1pepfan]

Hi, Does anyone know what 3 diagrams will be cut off in the December TT change

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Speculating but I would guess the weekday 3 x Brighton - Pompey diagrams going over to 377

 

[that1pepfan]

Speculating but I would guess the weekday 3 x Brighton - Pompey diagrams going over to 377

Thats what I thought

 

[Andy1673]

Two of 3 Brighton to Portsmouth circuit will remain 313s. All 4 Littlehampton - Bognor - Barham - Bognor - Littlehampton - Portsmouth and all 3 Brighton to Seaford will also remain 313s.
Likely only one of Brighton to Portsmouth circuit and Hove shuttle as well as morning peak Brighton to West Worthing will be taken by 377s (possibly 377/3).

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Short of bringing back green 4 Sub 4732 or the NRM 2-Bil 2090, I think 313.201 should be retained for the Hove shuttles once the 313's go for scrap.

 

[Andy1673]

Short of bringing back green 4 Sub 4732 or the NRM 2-Bil 2090, I think 313.201 should be retained for the Hove shuttles once the 313's go for scrap.

Only 313201 will run all Hove shuttles 24/7/365 ... )))

 

[that1pepfan]

Imagine if that actually happened

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Two of 3 Brighton to Portsmouth circuit will remain 313s. All 4 Littlehampton - Bognor - Barham - Bognor - Littlehampton - Portsmouth and all 3 Brighton to Seaford will also remain 313s.
Likely only one of Brighton to Portsmouth circuit and Hove shuttle as well as morning peak Brighton to West Worthing will be taken by 377s (possibly 377/3).

Why remove one 313 from that, why not just remove all of them

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Just have them all as 3773

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And keep 313s for Hove Shuttle seafords and Littlehampton - Portsmouth and bognor

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Does anybody know why 313202 hasn't been out

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Only 313201 will run all Hove shuttles 24/7/365 ... )))

It probably would break down on the first rotation

 

[Andy1673]

Imagine if that actually happened

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Why remove one 313 from that, why not just remove all of them

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Just have them all as 3773

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And keep 313s for Hove Shuttle seafords and Littlehampton - Portsmouth and bognor

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Does anybody know why 313202 hasn't been out

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It probably would break down on the first rotation

It depends on overnight stabling. Four 313s diagrams originated off Bognor Regis platforms where the previous day`s diagrams finished. The earlier evening one finished the later next morning one started (trains aren`t able to fly and jump). Another one starts off Littlehampton Up sidings and only one goes out of Lovers Walk depot. Thus those six comprise four for Littlehampton - Bognor - Barham - Bognor - Littlehampton - Portsmouth and two for Brighton to Porstmouth. For the third Brighton to Portsmouth diagram Lovers Walk depot is starting and end point thus it can easily be taken by 377.
Frankly all three Seafords can easily be replaced by the 377s too.

 

[that1pepfan]

It depends on overnight stabling. Four 313s diagrams originated off Bognor Regis platforms where the previous day`s diagrams finished. The earlier evening one finished the later next morning one started (trains aren`t able to fly and jump). Another one starts off Littlehampton Up sidings and only one goes out of Lovers Walk depot. Thus those six comprise four for Littlehampton - Bognor - Barham - Bognor - Littlehampton - Portsmouth and two for Brighton to Porstmouth. For the third Brighton to Portsmouth diagram Lovers Walk depot is starting and end point thus it can easily be taken by 377.
Frankly all three Seafords can easily be replaced by the 377s too.

Oh fair enough

 

[LA50041]

Speculating but I would guess the weekday 3 x Brighton - Pompey diagrams going over to 377

Incorrect

Two of 3 Brighton to Portsmouth circuit will remain 313s. All 4 Littlehampton - Bognor - Barham - Bognor - Littlehampton - Portsmouth and all 3 Brighton to Seaford will also remain 313s.
Likely only one of Brighton to Portsmouth circuit and Hove shuttle as well as morning peak Brighton to West Worthing will be taken by 377s (possibly 377/3).

Correct.
The Pompey circuit that starts at Lovers Walk goes over to 377/3 along with the hove Shuttles and the peak Littlehamptons

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Incorrect

Correct.
The Pompey circuit that starts at Lovers Walk goes over to 377/3 along with the hove Shuttles and the peak Littlehamptons

Brighton Hove booked 377 while Brighton Portsmouth’s booked majority 313 is so ironic.

 

[Andy1673]

Incorrect

Correct.
The Pompey circuit that starts at Lovers Walk goes over to 377/3 along with the hove Shuttles and the peak Littlehamptons

Well as we can see more 377/3 will be transferred to Lovers Walk to provide ex-313 curcuits. Will 377/3 retain Brighton to Ore peaks as such as Lewes peaks?

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Will 377/3 retain Brighton to Ore peaks as such as Lewes peaks?

Haven't some 387's been doing some of these?

Thanks for the info btw

 

[that1pepfan]

is there any 313s in the way of selhurst today

 

[LA50041]

Well as we can see more 377/3 will be transferred to Lovers Walk to provide ex-313 curcuits. Will 377/3 retain Brighton to Ore peaks as such as Lewes peaks?

No more 377/3 on East Coastway.
4 387 circuits on East Coastway including the PM Lewes Shuttles. AM Shuttles are a 377/4

Two of the spare 377/3 will come down to Lovers Walk, but they will be spare on depot with no allocated work, still only 4 circuits on the south coast
1 Hove Shuttles
1 Hove Shuttles and Littlehamton Peaks
1 Portsmouth & Southsea and one that forms a 7 car LIT-VIC circuit

 

[that1pepfan]

Will it be 377/3 operated on Saturdays too

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The hove service

 

[LA50041]

Will it be 377/3 operated on Saturdays too

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The hove service

Yes. As it stands there is only 1 377/3 diagram for Saturdays and none on Sundays.

 

[that1pepfan]

Is it the regular 377/1 or /4 on the hove

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Also is seafords on Saturday/ Sundays still 313s or shifted to 377/3

 

[LA50041]

Is it the regular 377/1 or /4 on the hove

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Also is seafords on Saturday/ Sundays still 313s or shifted to 377/3

yes 4 car on the Sunday Hove.

All seafords are 313 (except possibly when there is Brighton football)

 

[that1pepfan]

yes 4 car on the Sunday Hove.

All seafords are 313 (except possibly when there is Brighton football)

Great

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Thanks

 

[Andy1673]

No more 377/3 on East Coastway.
4 387 circuits on East Coastway including the PM Lewes Shuttles. AM Shuttles are a 377/4

Two of the spare 377/3 will come down to Lovers Walk, but they will be spare on depot with no allocated work, still only 4 circuits on the south coast
1 Hove Shuttles
1 Hove Shuttles and Littlehamton Peaks
1 Portsmouth & Southsea and one that forms a 7 car LIT-VIC circuit

Very interesting!
So 1H07 LIT to VIC and 1F10 VIC ato EBN will be 7 car only 377/3+377/4?

Thank you!

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

No more 377/3 on East Coastway.
4 387 circuits on East Coastway including the PM Lewes Shuttles. AM Shuttles are a 377/4

Two of the spare 377/3 will come down to Lovers Walk, but they will be spare on depot with no allocated work, still only 4 circuits on the south coast
1 Hove Shuttles
1 Hove Shuttles and Littlehamton Peaks
1 Portsmouth & Southsea and one that forms a 7 car LIT-VIC circuit

Thanks for this information! How bizarre that they’ve chosen to put the 377/3 on Hove shuttles. I’m sure they have their reasons.

 

[LA50041]

Very interesting!
So 1H07 LIT to VIC and 1F10 VIC ato EBN will be 7 car only 377/3+377/4?

Thank you!

no 1H07 & 1F10 are 12 car

the 7 car circuit is 1S04/1S09/2E16/1H19/1H22/1H35/1H38/1H51/1H54/1H67/1H96

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Thanks for this information! How bizarre that they’ve chosen to put the 377/3 on Hove shuttles. I’m sure they have their reasons.

At a guess fleet probably want them all to start/finish in the Brighton area (3 starts/finishes at Lovers Walk and 1 at Wall Siding)

 

[that1pepfan]

no 1H07 & 1F10 are 12 car

the 7 car circuit is 1S04/1S09/2E16/1H19/1H22/1H35/1H38/1H51/1H54/1H67/1H96

And what does the rest of BI711

 

[LA50041]

And what does the rest of BI711

BI711 doesn't exist in the new timetable, only up to BI709

 

[that1pepfan]

BI711 doesn't exist in the new timetable, only up to BI709

Ah ok, what works that on the Portsmouths the rest of the day, another 377/3?

 

[Andy1673]

no 1H07 & 1F10 are 12 car

the 7 car circuit is 1S04/1S09/2E16/1H19/1H22/1H35/1H38/1H51/1H54/1H67/1H96

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At a guess fleet probably want them all to start/finish in the Brighton area (3 starts/finishes at Lovers Walk and 1 at Wall Siding)

Wow! Thanks!

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Ah ok, what works that on the Portsmouths the rest of the day, another 377/3?

Yes another 377/3 making one return Brighton to West Working then Brighton to Pompey most of the day then one return Brighton to Hove

 

[that1pepfan]

Oh ok! Thank you for all your help guys

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Is there any confirmed dates for withdrawal of 313 units