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Chiltern MK5s/168s
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It's only a like for like replacement of the Mk3s initially, so there will still be 165s on Oxford services for a while. (And probably continuing once the full fleet are introduced as well.)
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Any news on where the mk3s are going, I rode back from Birmingham before Christmas, and some of the other people boarding at the same time thought they were in first! .. It even had me confused for a bit.
It's a common error, many "normals" fear being excessed if they remain in the former business class carriage, to the extent that some stand in the vestibule whilst seats are free in it! (Marylebone departures). Usually from the Birmingham Moor St end it's quiet too, but I suspect that's because it's at the end of the platform furthest from the buffers!
Likely scrap, spares, ERS will could pick some up, at the moment who knows. But given they’re not in the best of shape or reliable, I can’t see them having much more of a future on the mainline.
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That’s the general consensus. However only ~4/5 Birminghams will be Mk5s when all are introduced.
Since that’s not until December timetable change, expect to see 168s and 165s scattered around the place for the majority of 2026.
The mark 5 introduction is being discussed here https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...-non-speculative-updates-thread.290448/unread
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