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Caught with Wrong Ticket but Details not Taken

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Wessex37

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Hi,

This is my first post here. I have been unable to find another thread similar to my circumstances, so your thoughts on my situation would be welcome - here goes.

I was going on a works night out and without thinking I bought a return from station A to B. However, coming back I needed to get off at C, which is 2 stops further on than A. I therefore needed to travel further than allowed. I realised this would be a problem; however, if there was a guard on the train I would have explained and asked for a ticket for the extra two stops, but no guard was on.

I knew I had the wrong ticket and when I reached the barriers at C, I immediately spoke to the attendant and stated this. I expected to be either let off or asked to pay a fee/fine (which I would have gladly done), but what actually happened wasn't either, in my mind anyway.

It must be borne in mind that I was not quite 'with it' after the night out, through alcohol and loud music, and was unable to fully comprehend or remember exactly what was being said to me. However, I was not blind drunk or in any way threatening, merely 'tipsy' and polite.

This is what I do remember:

She asked whether I intended to go back to A, but I said no, this is where I needed to be. She took the ticket off me and said something that, having looked in this forum, I now understand was relating to the Revenue Protection department. However, I am certain of these points:

- She did not say anything about paying there and then to settle the matter;
- She did not ask for my name, contact details, or a statement, nor did she provide any paperwork of any kind;
- She didn't make any physical indication that I should report to her colleague who was sat nearby not taking any active part in proceedings, and who may or may not have been aware of this discussion. I don't know if they were there specifically to deal with such things, or just for safety reasons. The attendant must have realised I was struggling to understand as I asked her to repeat things, so I would have expected her to make sure I went to her colleague.

Without any clear direction and believing the encounter over, I left the station, without anyone shouting that I should come back.

My concern now is that I mis-heard what she said and walked off without having given my contact details, if she had in fact said to speak with this colleague of hers. I am sure this would be interpreted as deliberately failing to give my details and, I recognise, is a serious offence but definitely not what I meant to do.

I am totally unfamiliar with the process here. If action was to be taken against me, should I have been asked at the time for my details and for a statement? Or is it possible that they don't need this info and will just trace me through my ticket (paid by credit card) and write to me for a statement? [This seems unlikely as surely they would be better off just asking me for the info right there?] Or, was she letting me off but saying the stuff about Revenue Protection for the benefit of anyone overhearing?

Ultimately, my quandary is this: Do I contact the train company and explain all, potentially opening myself up to prosecution but showing I did not intentionally 'run off', or do I take it as being let off and hope nothing more comes of it?
 
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Seeing as the attendant didn't ask you for any details it would be unlikely that anything will come of it as they don't have your details. Just chalk it up to experience and be a little more careful in future. I'm not 100% sure I'm correct however so don't quote me on this.
 

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Ultimately, my quandary is this: Do I contact the train company and explain all, potentially opening myself up to prosecution but showing I did not intentionally 'run off', or do I take it as being let off and hope nothing more comes of it?
Since you didn't provide any details, I don't see any way that they could take the matter further. Chalk it up to experience and don't do it again.
 

robbeech

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I wouldn't concern yourself about this too much other than as other have said, remember what you're doing next time so that you have the correct ticket.

It may be that the difference in price is £0, did you check this?
It may be that B to A via C is a valid route and you had a ticket where you are able to end short and as such there really wasn't a problem, either way it is unlikely you will hear anymore from this.

Rob
 

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As fare evasion is a relatively low-level crime it is unlikely that they would follow it up without your details to hand, as that kind of investigation is highly costly and difficult, and not justified for the level of loss.

But don't do it again - quite apart from it being wrong, if the same inspector catches you they will likely remember.

If you'd like to pay the fare that was due to absolve your conscience (but with no other practical nor legal effect), buy the "missing" ticket online and either fail to collect it or collect it and throw it in the bin.
 
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Wessex37

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Thanks for the replies chaps, it's put my mind at rest somewhat.

I've certainly learnt my lesson from this experience...
 
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