Spaceship323
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If it went to court the magistrate will only be interested in your mental health at the time of the offence, they won't take into account what has happened since
That’s a given for anyone who gets convicted. But if you’re trying to explain how this will specifically affect your health going forward, you need a doctor’s letter if you’re serious about this, not 19 pages of notes which you hope some clerk in the office will do more than skim read.what about the fact that my mental health may worsen as a result of a conviction affecting my career even further that it already has been ? This is the point i was tryna get across with my letter
I think this is OK. I think it gets the message across quite clearly, and is probably about as good an attempt at this as you can make, without assistance from a specialist solicitor. It will be more important to get the submission in on time than fine tuning minor details. If you can get a really clear medical letter in on time then do so, if not I would just add that further medical records are available if required. I would add in 5. I think there have been plenty of "reality checks" in the previous posts, TfL tend not to be easily persuaded since while they prosecute a lot of people, they tend to be for the more serious forms of fare evasion. I am saying this on the basis of the best support I can give you on this forum, rather than my own value judgements here. So that's why I want to note that it's clear to me that you have really sweated over this letter, and it shows that you are giving this matter serious thought, which is to your credit.Final draft. Going to send off later today :
Well how would I change my letter to avoid that ? I can’t afford a lawyer. So I’m trying my best to avoid prosecution myself.Looking through that I’m certain you will be summonsed by tfl. I think the only way you could possibly avoid a summons by tfl is to speak with one of the specialised solicitors for fare evasion cases. One that I know mentioned around here is manaks, but it is going to cost quite a sum of money for them to take on your case I think it’s between five hundred and twelve hundred pounds with no guarantee that they can get a final warning for you.
It’s a decision only you can make, but I’m certain that if that letter is sent as above, the next thing you will see is a summons.
Good luck whichever way you decide to go
There isn't much else you can do about the letter to be quite frank. The main thing you could get to help yourself is a doctor's letter, but we have already covered this.Well how would I change my letter to avoid that ? I can’t afford a lawyer. So I’m trying my best to avoid prosecution myself.
Well how would I change my letter to avoid that ? I can’t afford a lawyer. So I’m trying my best to avoid prosecution myself.
I just received a Doctor’s letter. Will that help ?I agree, if you can't afford a solicitor this is probably the best you're going to be able to do and no amount of fine tuning is going to materially change your prospects. I just don't think any of us are too hopeful that it will result in you avoiding prosecution.
So I just got a doctor’s note. They have noted. I do attend the GP for depression and anxiety. And they’ve noted I struggle day to day with motivation and completing activitiesThere isn't much else you can do about the letter to be quite frank. The main thing you could get to help yourself is a doctor's letter, but we have already covered this.
It might improve your chances, include it. It certainly won't reduce your chances.So I just got a doctor’s note. They have noted. I do attend the GP for depression and anxiety. And they’ve noted I struggle day to day with motivation and completing activities
She also noted I have symptoms of adhd and can act on impulse and can be restless.
Just to add to this:Package this carefully, get it off to TfL, and if it's going by Royal Mail invest in recorded delivery. Email is just as good.
It’s all email so I don’t think this is necessary right ?Just to add to this:
- if you can, send copies and not your original documents
- whatever you send, keep a copy of it. Taking pictures of it on your phone would be a good way to do this. This includes your letter as well as documents!
The important thing is to keep a copy in case you need to check what you said, or they deny ever receiving it!It’s all email so I don’t think this is necessary right ?
23. I think age and the position of my career I am in given the job market and recently just graduated probably influenced them to give a warning. Also the pass i used was relatively new so i dont think i made a whole lot of journeys on THAT card to that specific location.Thanks for uodating us. You've been very lucky as TfL normally prosecute cases like this.
Apologies if it's mentioned upthread but how old are you? as this could influence TfL's decision to only offer a warning.