Capital Coast Express

[Sad Sprinter]

Why did NSE not introduce the Capital Coast Express as its own sub-sector? On the Western division both the Portsmouth Lines and Wessex Electric services had their own route brands, so it seems strange that the CCE did not get similar treatment, but instead was kept as a separately branded train within the Sussex Coast sub-sector.

 

[The exile]

Why did NSE not introduce the Capital Coast Express as its own sub-sector? On the Western division both the Portsmouth Lines and Wessex Electric services had their own route brands, so it seems strange that the CCE did not get similar treatment, but instead was kept as a separately branded train within the Sussex Coast sub-sector.

Why create a sub-sector for what was just a few fast trains? None of the other areas did. Presumably also no dedicated stock pool- the 8-DIGs and modified 319s came along much later.

 

[Sad Sprinter]

Why create a sub-sector for what was just a few fast trains? None of the other areas did. Presumably also no dedicated stock pool- the 8-DIGs and modified 319s came along much later.

But the Wessex Electrics had their own sub-sector? As did the WoE line which had far fewer trains back then.

 

[The exile]

But the Wessex Electrics had their own sub-sector? As did the WoE line which had far fewer trains back then.

They were “natural sub sectors” with discrete rolling-stock pools (and possibly management and admin as well - but I don’t know) The Brighton fasts weren’t (certainly not initially). Suspect the driver behind the splitting of “Solent and Wessex” was the arrival of the 442s and a wish to publicise these and the Weymouth electrification with a new branding. That would leave the question of what to call the rest - the bit that didn’t serve Wessex.
By the time the CCE had new(ish) trains to publicise it was 1993 and privatisation was approaching fast. Even if it hadn’t been, the true CCE fleet was tiny - the rest could (and did) turn up virtually anywhere on the Central division.

 

[43096]

But the Wessex Electrics had their own sub-sector? As did the WoE line which had far fewer trains back then.

They were “natural sub sectors” with discrete rolling-stock pools (and possibly management and admin as well - but I don’t know) The Brighton fasts weren’t (certainly not initially). Suspect the driver behind the splitting of “Solent and Wessex” was the arrival of the 442s and a wish to publicise these and the Weymouth electrification with a new branding. That would leave the question of what to call the rest - the bit that didn’t serve Wessex.
By the time the CCE had new(ish) trains to publicise it was 1993 and privatisation was approaching fast. Even if it hadn’t been, the true CCE fleet was tiny - the rest could (and did) turn up virtually anywhere on the Central division.

They weren’t sub-sectors, just branding for a particular route. The NSE sub-sectors were the likes of South Eastern, South Central, South Western (equivalent to the old SR divisions) and Thames & Chiltern, Great Northern etc.

 

[The exile]

They weren’t sub-sectors, just branding for a particular route. The NSE sub-sectors were the likes of South Eastern, South Central, South Western (equivalent to the old SR divisions) and Thames & Chiltern, Great Northern etc.

Yes - true.