Bread discussion

[Mcr Warrior]

Oh come on! Can’t believe there’s that many Marmite haters out there!

Awful stuff. If bees make honey... then it's wasps who make Marmite!

Next you’ll be saying that you don’t rate thickly spread peanut butter on thick white bread!

As @DarloRich has just mentioned, it needs to be the 'Crunchy' variant of peanut butter. 'Smooth' is too cloying.

 

[Strathclyder]

I remember there being a poll a while ago that said freshly buttered toast was the nation’s favourite smell.

Oh god I really want some now!

Not surprised by that at all. 'Tiger' bread smells just as good imo.

 

[GusB]

If you havent the time to make it, then your obviously earning enought to buy it. So why complain of the price of it ?

What?! Bread has a fair significant amount of preparation time when you factor in the time that you have to leave it to prove. There are some types of bread that are quicker to make, certainly, but not everyone has the time. Someone who works long shifts may not wish, or have the energy to make their own bread at the end of the day.

already showed the ingrediants are way less than buying a loaf, unless of course your buying a really rough brand, in which case your getting what you paid for, in which case thats more about your value of food than the price of it.

It's not just the cost of the ingredients; you also have to factor in the cost of the energy required to make it.

cheaper solutions are available, but if everyone just wants to whinge about price then they havent really got an issue at all, as alternative cheaper choices are available, but only if its really an issue.

Indeed. Many people will be relying on loaves that have been reduced to clear because they cannot afford to buy it full price.

i hate to break it to you, but much of that supermarket bread has been pre-frozen, then defrosted and baked.

That depends on the supermarket and whether stuff is baked from scratch in-store, or if it's a "bake-off" bakery where frozen product is brought in and finished off on the premises.

Simple… buy the ingredients, make it yourself. Flour is less than £1 and will make multiple loaves.
15 mins prep and your done.

i’m not even going to calculate the cost of a few spoons of salt and olive oil as it really is pennies.

Olive oil is not a cheap ingredient! Even basic cooking oils have increased in price by an eye-watering amount lately.

Personally I think people are just too lazy and too used to having it too easy…now the price is rising they are moaning about something they cannot change but with some effort of their own bare hands…

As I already mentioned, some people don't have time when working long shifts and/or multiple jobs in order to make ends meet. Also, being too knackered to make bread does not make one lazy.

Economising is an option and still live a same livestyle, down the road more people may not have such a nice choice, this country isnt getting any better and prices are only ever going one way.

Have you considered that the people most affected by higher bread prices will already be economising as much as they can?

clearly it doesnt work for everything, buying a cow or a chicken is certainly less practical, but sticking an onion in a plant pot on your window sill will give you months worth of onion chives… costs nowt, in time or money, but then so do onions, at the moment.

I really have no words...

Learning to cook, to offset higher food prices, are you really going to argue thats a bad thing ?
or am I off piste is this thread solely about whinging of higher prices not solutions ?

Agreed. Learning to cook is a key life skill, and I learned from family who had the time and patience to show me, as well as gaining some knowledge at school. Since then I've learned by experimenting. I had a stay-at-home mum, so she had the time to teach me; this may not have been the case if she'd had to chase all the hours available in order to buy food in the first place.

Do people have access to the resources from which they can learn? Not everyone has internet access, and we all know that libraries are often among the first casualties when it comes to council funding cuts.

If you derive some pleasure from the baking of your own bread, good on you. Don't look down on people who don't because they don't have the time, skills or wherewithal to afford the ingredients.

 

[PeterY]

Is buttered toast the ultimate comfort food? I maintain that the cheapest white bread makes the best toast.

I love butter with my toast and not just a scraping of butter either.

I always have a spare loaf in my freezer and I've never had a problem with bread that has been frozen.

I've never tried to make my own bread.

 

[Bald Rick]

You peanut butter: Crunchy obviously?

I’m agnostic, but tend to smooth. However I’m a recent convert to peanut only peanut butter.

 

[DelayRepay]

I’m agnostic, but tend to smooth. However I’m a recent convert to peanut only peanut butter.

I am sorry but this is off topic. Could the moderator please move these posts to a Peanut Butter thread?

 

[py_megapixel]

I am sorry but this is off topic. Could the moderator please move these posts to a Peanut Butter thread?

Oooh, I think we need a dedicated thread for requests that off-topic posts be moved. They're a bit off-topic here!

 

[Bald Rick]

I am sorry but this is off topic. Could the moderator please move these posts to a Peanut Butter thread?

I only ever put peanut butter on bread
The thread topic is bread
Therefore, for me, peanut butter must be on topic on this thread
QED

 

[Cowley]

I am sorry but this is off topic. Could the moderator please move these posts to a Peanut Butter thread?

For discussing Peanut Butter matters?

 

[py_megapixel]

If I found a thread in my peanut butter I'd be taking it back to the shop...

 

[DarloRich]

I’m agnostic, but tend to smooth. However I’m a recent convert to peanut only peanut butter.

If i may take the liberty of suggesting a peanut butter: Whole Earth crunchy. Thank me later. ( it is like eating concrete. Manly.)

 

[Bald Rick]

If i may take the liberty of suggesting a peanut butter: Whole Earth crunchy. Thank me later. ( it is like eating concrete. Manly.)

Been there, done that. I prefer Pip&Nut.

 

[DarloRich]

Been there, done that. I prefer Pip&Nut.

i wlil have a look out for it

 

[Darandio]

Next you'll all be claiming it's great with jelly........

 

[Bald Rick]

Next you'll all be claiming it's great with jelly........

Thats just wrong.

i wlil have a look out for it

It was on offer in Sainsburys at the weekend, £2 a pot. I bought 6!

 

[Cowley]

please don’t make me start another thread on peanut butter now…

 

[edwin_m]

I never eat peanut butter, so it's off-topic for me.

But then again if we split it out we'd be slicing the discussion up, and some people would feel utterly crust by that decision. Let's keep the crumbs of comfort.

 

[Bald Rick]

I never eat peanut butter, so it's off-topic for me.

But then again if we split it out we'd be slicing the discussion up, and some people would feel utterly crust by that decision. Let's keep the crumbs of comfort.

I knew someone would rise to the challenge. Needed that!

 

[ComUtoR]

Peanut Butter is easily converted into satay sauce

Stale/Old bread can be used to make breadcrumbs. Or bread pudding if you were the that way inclined.

Marmite is a very good glutamate so has alternative uses too.

Food that makes other food is the best way to economise.

 

[ChrisC]

I maintain that the cheapest white bread makes the best toast.

I don’t agree. Toast made from better quality bread has a far better taste. I haven’t bought any standard supermarket sliced bread for years as I prefer to get what I consider far better tasting and better quality bread from small independent bakers such as a village bakery close to me. More expensive, I agree, but I don’t eat a huge amount of bread. The only time I ever eat cheap white bread is if I have no alternative such as at breakfast in a budget hotel.

 

[py_megapixel]

I don’t agree. Toast made from better quality bread has a far better taste. I haven’t bought any standard supermarket sliced bread for years as I prefer to get what I consider far better tasting and better quality bread from small independent bakers such as a village bakery close to me. More expensive, I agree, but I don’t eat a huge amount of bread. The only time I ever eat cheap white bread is if I have no alternative such as at breakfast in a budget hotel.

It always seems a shame to toast good quality fresh bread, as you could just eat it fresh and it would be just as nice. On the other hand, toasting is a great way of making good use of slightly stale bread, or of course quickly defrosting frozen bread.

 

[DelW]

What?! Bread has a fair significant amount of preparation time when you factor in the time that you have to leave it to prove. There are some types of bread that are quicker to make, certainly, but not everyone has the time. Someone who works long shifts may not wish, or have the energy to make their own bread at the end of the day.

It's not just the cost of the ingredients; you also have to factor in the cost of the energy required to make it.

A bread maker solves those. I reckon less than ten minutes effort per loaf:
max 5 minutes to measure ingredients into pan (2 liquid, 5 solid)
max 2 minutes to remove pan from machine, and bread from pan
max 3 minutes to wash pan and measures next time I am washing up, and reassemble

Although the machine needs to run for around three hours, you can set its timer so it will finish when you get up, or get back home. I don't know the actual energy cost, but the mixer only runs for a few minutes, and the heating element only loses very little external heat (it only gets gently warm to the touch).

I use mine twice a week for virtually all my bread, though I do keep a sliced loaf in the freezer for emergency use, or for instance when coming home from a holiday.

 

[edwin_m]

I knew someone would rise to the challenge. Needed that!

At yeast we can have a bit of a laugh about it. That doesn't happen very oven.

 

[DarloRich]

I don’t agree. Toast made from better quality bread has a far better taste. I haven’t bought any standard supermarket sliced bread for years as I prefer to get what I consider far better tasting and better quality bread from small independent bakers such as a village bakery close to me. More expensive, I agree, but I don’t eat a huge amount of bread. The only time I ever eat cheap white bread is if I have no alternative such as at breakfast in a budget hotel.

I wouldn't toast good bread - it is such a waste. Much better to use it for a nice sandwich or with a bowl of home made soup. In any event growing up we didn't have much money so only had cheap bread and you like what you know!

It always seems a shame to toast good quality fresh bread, as you could just eat it fresh and it would be just as nice. On the other hand, toasting is a great way of making good use of slightly stale bread, or of course quickly defrosting frozen bread.

Agreed!

 

[kermit]

Oh come on! Can’t believe there’s that many Marmite haters out there!

Next you’ll be saying that you don’t rate thickly spread peanut butter on thick white bread!

Heretic alert;

1) Supermarket own brand yeast extracts are generally better imo than Marmite (less sticky / more soluble texture, less aggressive flavour)

2) Peanut butter works much better in combination with real butter (and a bit of extra salt) than on its own

Both go well on cheap springy thick cut fresh white sliced bread.

 

[ChrisC]

I wouldn't toast good bread - it is such a waste. Much better to use it for a nice sandwich or with a bowl of home made soup. In any event growing up we didn't have much money so only had cheap bread and you like what you know!

I understand what you mean about toasting good bread being such a waste. My grandparents would certainly have agreed with that.
But is it a waste if you genuinely enjoy it far more than cheap white sliced bread toasted? I don’t buy cheap white bread because I don’t like it so if I have toast it has to be the better quality bread which I have in the house. I’m not talking about the very expensive specialist artisan bread that you would buy at a farmers market. The bread I have is just nice bread from a local village bakery. I don’t eat loads of toast but I do keep a sliced loaf in the freezer for when I need it. The sliced loaf will be one from the bakery that they have sliced for me using their in store bread slicer. I know it’s more expensive but I would rather have bread which I really enjoy eating.

 

[DynamicSpirit]

I only ever put peanut butter on bread

Do you mean you've never been tempted to spoon some peanut butter out of the jar and eat it directly?

You haven't lived!

 

[Bald Rick]

Do you mean you've never been tempted to spoon some peanut butter out of the jar and eat it directly?

You haven't lived!

Honestly - no!

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Do you mean you've never been tempted to spoon some peanut butter out of the jar and eat it directly?

You haven't lived!

Me, neither!