222103 Returns

[Pumbaa]

222103 has left Crewe works, seen here, with one of the cars in East Midlands livery here.

Bout time, it's only been 2 or 3 years?

 

[MCR247]

and another pic here

 

[222001]

and another pic here

I like that pic the best. Looks very strange. It looks like they built a new body and stuck the old cab on the end.

222103 was damaged in January 2007 so it has been about 2 1/2 years. It will be nice to see it out and about again with EMT.

 

[asylumxl]

222103 was damaged in January 2007 so it has been about 2 1/2 years. It will be nice to see it out and about again with EMT.

Agreed. 'Bout time it was fixed. Has the interior of 103 been altered or is it still Pioneer?

 

[Pumbaa]

Agreed. 'Bout time it was fixed. Has the interior of 103 been altered or is it still Pioneer?

I'd imagine it hasn't been altered, like the rest of the Pioneers from HT now with EMT.

 

[222001]

Yes I imagine the interior has been put back as it was before the accident happened.

222103 had only actually been in service for about 1 year before the accident happened so the interior should be hardly worn.

 

[The_Stig]

Sorry for being nosey guys, but what happened to it?

 

[mumrar]

Sorry for being nosey guys, but what happened to it?

This is only from what I remember hearing at the time. It was jacked up for whatever planned maintenance, and somehow it hadn't been food correctly, this led to at least one vehicle falling from the jack and a lot of damage. I can't recall if the Health and Safety Executive got involved or dealt out punishment, but you shouldn't really have 40odd tonne vehicles falling about in a workplace.

 

[The_Stig]

Yeah, that could leave quite a mess. Hopefully nobody was injured.

 

[GNERman]

i believe 50029 was dropped in a similar accident with the army a few years ago...

 

[2030720310]

i believe 50029 was dropped in a similar accident with the army a few years ago...

Wasn't that 026? Although I'm not quite sure, I thought I read in the railway magazine that it was 026?
Sorry if I'm wrong...

 

[GNERman]

no it might be 026 for that matter...

 

[Edvid]

What is 103 doing at the moment?

 

[222001]

What is 103 doing at the moment?

I have a feeling it's gone for repaint.

 

[MCR247]

Does anyone know what diagrams the 222/1 work?

 

[GNERman]

corby duties

 

[MCR247]

All of the corby trains?

 

[eastmidschris]

Actually, they are on general London diagrams, usually coupled to 5-car Meridians. The Corby services are usually formed of 5-cars.

 

[MCR247]

Does anyone know the specific diagrams? (I know they can change at last minute)

 

[222001]

corby duties

Not exactly. They run some of the Corbys. Here are the full diagrams (there are only two). Diagram one is different on Mondays than it is Tuesday - Friday.

4 Car Pioneer Diagram 1 (MONDAY ONLY)
1C06 0517 Derby – London St Pancras
1M11 0800 London St Pancras – Corby
1P34 1114 Corby – London St Pancras
1M36 1300 London St Pancras – Corby
1P54 1443 Corby – London St Pancras
1F56 1700 London St Pancras – Derby (9-cars to Kettering where it splits with 4 to Derby)

4 Car Pioneer Diagram 1 (TUESDAY-FRIDAY ONLY)
1D09 0730 London St Pancras - Nottingham
1B31 1002 Nottingham – London St Pancras
1F33 1225 London St Pancras – Derby
1C57 1518 Derby – London St Pancras
1D59 1730 London St Pancras – Nottingham (9-car formation)

4 Car Pioneer Diagram 2
1C17 0647 Sheffield – London St Pancras (9-car formation)
ECS to Cricklewood
1M46 1500 London St Pancras – Corby
1P64 1643 Corby – London St Pancras
1D67 1915 London St Pancras – Nottingham
1B89 2128 Nottingham – London St Pancras

 

[MCR247]

Cheers for that Mark

 

[222001]

Cheers for that Mark

No problem. Even though the 1C17 0647 Sheffield – London St Pancras (9-car formation) didn't have a Pioneer this morning and instead I saw one on the 16:18 Derby - London service so they can sometimes vary but they are official diagrams.

 

[1D53]

What a waste of these four units. Two diagrams and one of them sits half the day on Cricklewood!

 

[222001]

What a waste of these four units. Two diagrams and one of them sits half the day on Cricklewood!

Look at the trouble Hull Trains are going through after loosing them too. When the Derby service is extended to Sheffield I think they will be ultilised more.

 

[Kneedown]

What a waste of these four units. Two diagrams and one of them sits half the day on Cricklewood!

It should be going to Liverpool!