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Nym

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whats wrong with alstom? thats one of the companies I might end up lumbered being working for, or should I pick bombardier or siemens instead?
 
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Nym there's nothing wrong with Alstom as a company, just the crap style of trains they (all) produce these days. I just prefer real trains that are designed to be driven rather than the ones you have to monitor whats going wrong with it more than looking where you are going.
 

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Nym there's nothing wrong with Alstom as a company, just the crap style of trains they (all) produce these days. I just prefer real trains that are designed to be driven rather than the ones you have to monitor whats going wrong with it more than looking where you are going.

Not to mention the 'teething' problems with them! Brake problems on 175s, 390s spring to mind etc. Although after the original problems were overcome they seem quite reliable according to some statistics.

Shame that Washwood Heath closed though....
 

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Nym there's nothing wrong with Alstom as a company, just the crap style of trains they (all) produce these days.

They build the TGV's and, like em or not, you can't really say they're cr*p.
I think it's just the French getting their own back on us by building rubbish for us and decent stuff for them!
Having said that i'd still like to see Piggy Wiggys put their flying helmets and goggles on, and 180's to come to EMT replacing the awful 158's on the Liverpool - Norwich's!
 

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They build the TGV's and, like em or not, you can't really say they're cr*p.
I think it's just the French getting their own back on us by building rubbish for us and decent stuff for them!
Having said that i'd still like to see Piggy Wiggys put their flying helmets and goggles on, and 180's to come to EMT replacing the awful 158's on the Liverpool - Norwich's!

Hmmmmm... Decitions Decitions;

Rail Industry: ATOC APEDS, Alstom, Bombardier or Siemens (where I'll probs end up fixing traffic lights.
Power Industry: Drax Power Station, Energy Managment or somthing similar.
or Research... (Not an option cos it's not a job!)

Also, BP will pay s*** loads...

Back to on topic, the're no worse than how we'd build them, and even the germans don't get everything right, although the bit thats wrong in the 185s is that little bit that they let the americans design, hehe. Same in the 180s if it's engine problems thats the fault of Cummins, not Alstom
 

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Didn't Alstom recently isolate the hydro-dynamic brake on these units - would 125 mph running on the WCML wear out the conventional brake discs and could this be a restriction?
 

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Missing the big thing.

They can't tilt and so they're 110 limited on the WCML.

10 more than the 185s, and that can make a considerable difference over the lingth of route being considered.
 

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Depends on whether the acceleration of the 185s are to compared to the 180mphs. 10mph extra top speed means nothing on a hilly, bendy mainline. Speed rarely creep over 100mph.

It would be good for Anglo-Scottish routes because of the extra capacity!
 

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It would be good for Anglo-Scottish routes because of the extra capacity!

But that extra capacity is badly needed elsewhere. At least passengers going to Scotland have the option to get on a 9 car Pendolino, or go via the East coast. Options they don't have between Liverpool and Notts.
 

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Which unit went over last Monday - and does anyone know which unit is scheduled to move this Monday?

As FGW are keeping 3 units until the extra HST arrives, I'm guessing the week after next will be the last move.
 

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Does anyone know which 180s are at Oxley as of today (3rd December)?
 

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This thread is almost 9 months old!
 
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