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fwiw my memory of A level physics from 50 years ago: 1. extend a sample by a certain distance, which will require a force dependent on material, x-section etc etc. 2. extend the same sample by the same distance by heating it. 3. the force needed to restrain the expansion in example 2 is equal...

customer service, railway style! if you can afford a car, get one, it's much nicer.

This from 2001 made it the railway's problem. English law from a while ago though. https://www.lgcplus.com/archive/railtrack-losing-to-council-over-pigeon-mess-is-landmark-for-land-owners-01-08-2001/

Sell tickets on trains, problem solved. If the revenue from tickets doesn't cover the wage of the ticket collector stop stressing about it.

happy memories of the van der graaf generator.

what is the marginal cost of carrying 1 passenger 1 mile on the railway?

no. function creep will go like this: immigrants have their spending controlled. the unemployed have their spending controlled. everyone has their spending controlled.

the railway was pretty much a closed system in my youth, if it was affordable then it's affordable now. traincos have made a commercial decision to lose fare revenue and save on gates.

thought experiment: 1. compute the cost of running the current service, but with no passengers. 2. compute the cost of running the current service *with* passengers. 3. compute (2) - (1) as marginal cost of carrying passengers. 4. indulge in statistical jiggery pokery to obtain marginal...

fwiw I had a debt collector come after me for a gas bill I didn't owe, they backed right off when I threatened to report them to the police for harassment. cause/effect? we'll never know.

privatisation was always a racket, in hindsight the scale of it was breathtaking: public subsidy pre was a billion, the year after 2 billion.

I was thinking seaside chalets. just seen it's Scarborough...

Penistone to Sheffield would be 15 minutes instead of 45 via Barnsley. Penistone to Manchester would be much quicker with no changes.

I've had a go at straightening the picture out

talking of toilets, when I was last using the railway for long distance travel, years ago, the wonderful computerised doors didn't open. the car is far superior in this regard - services or layby plus bush.

Compared to now it was much harder to get into any sort of trouble: you couldn't get on the platform without a ticket, there were no train companies trying to trick you with weird and wonderful rules about which train you could get on or which route you could use. So long as you had a valid...

parliamentary trains come to mind, but not sure that's an exact analogy.

once you've bought a car it's game over for the train. saw a thread in which a rail employee was saying, re yellow line on platform, "if you don't want to get shouted at, don't cross the line"! no one with any self respect is going to pay through the nose for that sort of treatment.

don't use the train at all any more, northern have stopped doing cheap day returns. probably time for me to leave the forum! oh, seems you can't delete your account. is that gdpr compliant?

I remember sitting on a train in Sheffield (think EMR, but could have been MML) and being read my rights over the tannoy! it was legalese specifically designed to enable prosecution of people with the "wrong" ticket. I've got a car now...