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    Ex GC 221s to move to EMR

    In my recent experience yes. It would be ironic if part of the reason the 810 programme is in the state its in is because of complex re-engineering to deliver performance that they didn't strictly need...
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    Ex GC 221s to move to EMR

    *Must* surely? As you say, part of the reason for EMR's difficulties was down to Etches Park being overwhelmed by patching up knackered old trains whilst onboarding dodgy new ones. Presumably if the intention is to therefore deploy on the services most liable to overcrowding? Any views on when...
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    Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

    Well spotted! My trusting soul would never think that they are playing both ends. Beat up current EMR to manage down expectations and then claim credit as and when things improve
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    Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

    I cordially disagree. The problem for Govt of it happening now is that Govt cannot claim to have been unaware (1) that the 810s were very late; (2) that EMR was having problems delivering its IC service as far back as Summer 2025 and (3) knew that the service was crumbling in Summer 2026. So...
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    Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

    100% agree with this. It's certainly something that the acting MD of EMR has mentioned as an option in public media. It becomes the only option assuming that yesterday's announcements confirm that the ex-Avanti 221s will go direct to XC, and the 4 off-lease 180s, or what's left of them, are to...
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    Electrification threads and resources index

    We've had so many policy and pipeline announcements that just get quietly erased (e.g. Electric Spine) Then we've had situations like MMLE, which has been on and off more than my accursed work laptop. The most recent cancellation happened so late that compounds were being stood up, piling...
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    Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

    I think this a very simplistic take on what is clearly a complex investigation. My layperson's reading of the interim report suggests RSSB think a combination of a fault with the AWS magnet on the track, and the train crew's response to an unexpected AWS alarm might be the issue why it came to a...
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    EMR Class 222’s - declining reliability

    Well, I've been out and about on EMR a bit this week. I didn't manage a single Cl810 trip, but did have 4 journeys on Cl222, and saw a couple of other Cl222 leaving Leicester. The majority of them seemed only to have 4 engines contributing to traction (i.e. higher revs during acceleration)...
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    Should EMR cancel the Class 810 order and/or return the trains?

    Roger Ford's long-ish read on the Cl810 in August does state that EMR probably still has the nuclear option of rejecting the entire fleet. Retaining that option may be part of the reason why EMR are not accepting new Cl810 until the existing ones have improved. However the small problem with...
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    Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

    I don't agree, at least on today's evidence. This failure's causing 1 and a half cancellations, with the 2nd impacted train (1202 STP-Shef) being picked up by a replacement unit at Derby. This wouldn't have happened in June/July. There'd have been no spare, and all the services it was due to run...
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    EMR Regional and Connect refurbishments

    Most of us are still waiting as we're quite a long way into a programme that has so far delivered a homeopathic quantity of refurbished trains. Is it 2, or 3 now? Hard to tell and the ones known to be complete don't seem to be worked very hard. It's 2 1/2 years since the refurb contract was...
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    Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

    Lord Hendy has got around to replying to a July letter from the MP for Harborough & Wigston, Neil O'Brien regarding EMR's performance. Three pages of ministerial blather that didn't seem to add to what is already known. However, feel free to read it yourself by following the link to Facebook...
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    EMR Regional and Connect refurbishments

    Is anybody here able to give a progress update on the 360s?
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    Trespass video

    True, but the risk of a corporate manslaughter prosecution relates to whether they have taken reasonable steps to secure the site (consistent with the risk of trespass and the potential hazards on site). Hence the case a few years ago at Bescot depot where DB Cargo where children broke in, one...
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    Class 810 - The Right Fit For EMR?

    The new Rolling Stock & Infrastructure strategy paper alludes to this issue by talking about the benefits of flexibility and standardisation. If this had been the thinking back in 2017, then it is saying that another option (such as remodelling St Pancras) would/is much more likely to have been...
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    Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

    The technical explanation is that it's not an 80x because of the amount that was changed to get 4 generators into 5 shorter carriages. The doors open the other way. They have different traction motors, different cabs and are made of different metal. I haven't seen anything authoritative on...
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    Burnham proposes revival of HS2 Birmingham-Manchester funded by land value capture

    I had a brief scan of one.network and there's a couple of other HS2 traffic management order applications along the Ph2 route. One is further south than this around Pipe Ridware. A brief Google search found an HS2 document talking about diversion of the gas transmission network at this...
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    Burnham proposes revival of HS2 Birmingham-Manchester funded by land value capture

    They've got the What3words location wrong. It should be reading.blacken.trimmer (not blaken as per their release). Perhaps as part of the Great Reset, HS2 have cut all W3W locations by one letter to save bytes. For those of us that use Google, here is an alternative link to the location...
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    Cross-country overcrowding: what could be done?

    I think it's a step in the right direction, but it's very non-committal. Lots of "investigate" and "could" and "subject to best value" language which we'd both expect because HMT control these decisions. Where it's more certain is about things that are probably pretty obvious things to do...
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    Electrifying Mainlines for Battery Train operation (using Class 897 as an example

    I pretty much agree. If 90 miles is the railway equivalent of the WLTP 100%-0% mileage, then 50 miles of usable range in all conditions across the lifecycle of the battery and with appropriate margin to avoid exhaustion. It may have been here or elsewhere, but I am sure I saw a mention of NMC...

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