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I have a growing sense of disbelief here. I live in the UK, not a third world olive state. I have to give personal details to two unidentified blokes with a belligerent attitude ( it was they who originally had the attitude, not me) for an offence which has not been explained to me ?? Really...
I would not object to a quiet dog on a seat if there was plenty of room for other passengers. I do think however she should have brought a towel or blanket so the next passenger didn't get dog hair over their coat
We all have to travel together and it's just about a bit of consideration and...
Totally agree that what's going on in those pictures is wrong. That was nothing like what I was doing. I had put a thick news paper on the seats.
I don't know what I expect from CCTV. Just want some evidence of how they spoke to me.
I think what I was expecting was some degree of...
I have made a complaint to Northern Rail which the girl advised me should be a staff complaint.
I did not disagree with them but I think they were annoyed that I asked them who they were and for ID. They seemed to see that as a challenge but I would have thought it was information they should...
Blimey. You two have lost me now
I am simply worried that I am going to end up in court and I feel that would be unjust in these circumstances.
Yes I know now that it contravenes a railway bylaw but now I'm thinking does it? I was quite careful to protect the seat
My other objection is the...
So DaveNewcastle this is the future of railway security? And you think that's okay? These are not policemen, they have very little training but they have enhanced police powers. They are as I titled the thread a railway private militia
I can see the need for security but surely this is not the...
Specifically, they are authorised by the Railway Company, Northern Rail in this instance. In turn, Northern Rail are authorised by their franchise with the government's Department of Transport (and other complex industry relationships) to give enforce several statutes which regulate the Railways...
No hang on. I took my feet on the seat, true and I did put them back up because the guy said it in passing, didn't identify themselves or say why I should remove them. I did remove them and I didn't disagree with them. I asked who they were. Up to that point they could have been a couple of road...
I see what you are saying but think the defections are the tip of the iceberg.
It rattles them. Internally party members must be saying that they have to be more UKIP to stop more defections and privately many of them would like that anyway
Who actually gives them that authority. I am quite interested in this as these seem to be police like powers. I know that Communiity Support Officers get their limited powers directly from the police but where do contracted private security guards get the power to ask you for personal details
I have never been in any kind of trouble with the police apart from a speeding fine and a couple of parking tickets. The train was sparsely populated and quiet.
If they had quietly approached me and explained the problem I would probably have explained the issue with my knee but if they had...
I am also in complete disbelief that a railway would employ a couple of bully's like this. When did that happen? It's actually quite dangerous. With the attitude they had would have inflamed rather than calmed any potentially violent situation
Yes I understand (now) that there is a bye law about feet on seats but this wasn't explained. I did ask and one of the guys went Company Policy
It wasn't a run so much as fast hobble. I know I shouldn't have!
I have put in a complaint about these guys and their attitude because I also...
Had a very nasty encounter the other day with a couple of these guys
Travelling from Kings X up north on East coast rail. I got on to a local northern train about 9 0 clock from Leeds. As background I should mention that I have an old knee injury which has flared up the past couple of weeks...
It's a shame he went for a vote on proportional representation rather than making tuition fees his red line. That's why, after all, they got so many votes last time
Well
A. Conservative long history of europhobia. They have been tearing themselves apart on this for 30 years - they have buried it because the rows were making them unelectable.
The defections from Cons to UKIP and the previous voting pattern of UKIP grassroots support
B. I would like...
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