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  1. Puffing Devil

    SWR short fare

    Always good to have a clean break, though not necessary, and in the very remote chance a prosecution was suggested, it's good for the OP to know there is a clock ticking and the threat is finite.
  2. Puffing Devil

    SWR short fare

    Looks like you've learned your lesson from this close call. Assuming you've now stopped short-faring, you should get a new credit/debit card. Get a new email for ticketing. Use a new online booking site; the forum's is excellent, and you'll be helping fund it for others. You'll then break...
  3. Puffing Devil

    SWR cracking down on Vauxhall - Waterloo doughnuts/short fares - Also GTR

    Or "encourage the payment of" those missing fares. If people believe that they will be caught, they are more likely to pay.
  4. Puffing Devil

    TransPennine Express checking the appetite for charging for seat reservations?

    Just had a survey in the email from TPE Asking first about how valuable seat reservations are to me, whether picking from a seating chart is useful, then it flips onto a pricing grid. How much would I be prepared to pay for a reservation? They may be thinking about upselling "choose your seat".
  5. Puffing Devil

    Should children be taught how to use public transport at school?

    That was my point - they should be teaching their children. We should not be outsourcing parenting to educators.
  6. Puffing Devil

    Outcome from C5 Fare Dodgers at War with the Law

    TICs are not subject to the six-month charging limit in the same way as the main summary offence, because they are not separate charges but voluntary admissions used at sentencing, and the court has discretion whether to take them into account. However, if I were an offender and faced with...
  7. Puffing Devil

    Outcome from C5 Fare Dodgers at War with the Law

    I'm struggling with how the compensation came about, but here's my take on the figures. £40 is a Band A fine, with an Early Guilty Plea discount of 1/3 on a "benefits" income of £120 (50% less 1/3) There would be a Victim Surcharge of £16 and the court would probably allow costs of £84...
  8. Puffing Devil

    SWR cracking down on Vauxhall - Waterloo doughnuts/short fares - Also GTR

    Get ready for a spate of posts! Evening Standard Article
  9. Puffing Devil

    TfL Prosecution - Misuse of Friend's Student Oyster - Rejection Email Received

    @udit You haven't answered the question "Did you receive a Single Justice Procedure Notice in the post" If yes - pay the fine and move on. Nothing else we can help with here. If no, and your income is less than £440 per week, you may want to submit a Statutory Declaration (SD) to the court...
  10. Puffing Devil

    Greater Anglia Fraud Email/Letter

    Not correct. Under S127 of the Magistrates' Courts Act 1980, a Magistrates' Court cannot try a summary offence unless the information/charge is laid before the court within six months of the date the offence was allegedly committed. Both the Railway Byelaws and S5(3) of the Regulation of...
  11. Puffing Devil

    TfL Prosecution - Misuse of Friend's Student Oyster - Rejection Email Received

    You mentioned a Single Justice Procedure Notice before. If you've not had one and have had nothing else from the court, you can apply to have the result overturned and the process restarted - given you're a student and on a limited income, this would reduce the fine and victim surcharge due...
  12. Puffing Devil

    TfL Prosecution - Misuse of Friend's Student Oyster - Rejection Email Received

    Did you get any paperwork from the court before this notification? That looks like a fine based on a standard, assumed, income.
  13. Puffing Devil

    Budget hotels discussion

    Agreed! Also add Harrow to the PI list - right by Kenton station.
  14. Puffing Devil

    Budget hotels discussion

    Plenty of PI bargains in the London suburbs to be had if you don't mind a small commute: Hayes, Uxbridge, Wembley (when no events on), Hanger Lane, Bromley, Croydon, Sutton, Slough. The Moxy at Slough can often be a bargain and is a very short hop from the station.
  15. Puffing Devil

    Discussion About the Validity of Contactless PAYG Where the Journey is Outside the PAYG Area

    No I am not - this is important to the prosecution case. Agreed it does not need to be here - I asked the mods to move this discussion to another thread, but it's still here.
  16. Puffing Devil

    Itapped on an didnt realized tapping out outside zone. Berkhamstead to Milton Keynes central.

    The flaw in the "Schrödinger's ticket" argument is that you're confusing the railway's inability to catch someone mid-journey with the journey actually being legal. When an inspector grips a card mid-journey before Bletchley, the scanner flashes green simply because the passenger is performing...
  17. Puffing Devil

    Itapped on an didnt realized tapping out outside zone. Berkhamstead to Milton Keynes central.

    I think the Byelaw 18(1) test needs to be read alongside the NRCoT, not in isolation from it. NRCoT 6.1 defines a Ticket as including a validated contactless PAYG card "where accepted", and says you must hold a valid Ticket or authority to travel "for the journey you intend to make" before...
  18. Puffing Devil

    Itapped on an didnt realized tapping out outside zone. Berkhamstead to Milton Keynes central.

    This is where we would need to go through the legal system: the "ticket", being the tapped-in card, was not valid for the journey the OP was making. It was valid in the contactless zone, and when checked on board, the OP was not asked their destination, so passed a check. I don't think there...
  19. Puffing Devil

    Itapped on an didnt realized tapping out outside zone. Berkhamstead to Milton Keynes central.

    Isn't MKC a CTA? If not, the OP may well have a loophole! The RORA is out, as the OP will claim there was no intent. For Bylaw 18, the OP had a valid ticket when they boarded the train. Maybe worth running if the OP is determined to go to court, but I would want some legal support. Edit to...

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