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TPE Travel Irregularity Notice after being unable to show a valid Railcard

monkeyMoron

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On 17 October 2026 (today) I travelled directly from Warrington Central to Liverpool Lime Street on TransPennine Express.

Before boarding, I bought a £5.85 Off-Peak Day Return through Virgin Trains Ticketing, with a 26–30 Railcard discount. I scanned in through the e-gates at warrington Central prior to getting on the train, however once on board around 10 minutes in to the journey I had my inspected where I was asked to produce the railcard - it was only at this point I realsied I could not as my previous Trainline card expired on 21 December 2025, I looked desperately as I have regularly bought Railcards and believed I had renewed, but despite checking emails, accounts and bank records, I currently cannot find evidence of another card valid for this journey. During the inspection I purchased a new Railcard valid until 16 October 2027 but I understand this does not establish that I held a valid card before boarding.

The inspector photographed my ticket and the expired and new card, took my details, and said previous journeys would be investigated. I received a Travel Irregularity Notice. It says TPE will write and no payment is required or possible yet.

I would like to resolve this honestly, pay any properly due fare and reasonable costs, and avoid court and the risk of a criminal record - what should I expect next? This is a real shock for me as its the first time I have ever recived a fine or official caution for anything and genuinely thought I had a card, otherwise I never would have travelled, so as you can imagine I am very worried. Should I send an explanation now, given the 21-day period in TPE’s published Railcard policy, or wait for its letter? Could the review include other operators’ journeys as I am worried as have used this railcard for other journeys since December as I (incorrectly it now seems) thought I had a valid railcard?

Thank you in advance.
 
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You should wait to be written to. The company will conduct their investigation into the matter first. What is the 21 day policy you refer to?
 

AlterEgo

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When I looked it up online it seemed to suggest I should respond to the notice in writing within 21 days?
You may be thinking of an unpaid fare notice or a penalty fare, neither of which apply here. There is nothing for you to respond to at this stage.
 

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You should wait to be written to. The company will conduct their investigation into the matter first. What is the 21 day policy you refer to?
Time in which to invoke the forgotten railcard policy and show a valid railcard maybe?

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When I looked it up online it seemed to suggest I should respond to the notice in writing within 21 days?
If you can post a link to the page where you found that info we can check exactly what it refers to for you if that would help.

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On 17 October 2026 (today) I travelled directly from Warrington Central to Liverpool Lime Street on TransPennine Express.

Before boarding, I bought a £5.85 Off-Peak Day Return through Virgin Trains Ticketing, with a 26–30 Railcard discount. I scanned in through the e-gates at warrington Central prior to getting on the train, however once on board around 10 minutes in to the journey I had my inspected where I was asked to produce the railcard - it was only at this point I realsied I could not as my previous Trainline card expired on 21 December 2025, I looked desperately as I have regularly bought Railcards and believed I had renewed, but despite checking emails, accounts and bank records, I currently cannot find evidence of another card valid for this journey. During the inspection I purchased a new Railcard valid until 16 October 2027 but I understand this does not establish that I held a valid card before boarding.

The inspector photographed my ticket and the expired and new card, took my details, and said previous journeys would be investigated. I received a Travel Irregularity Notice. It says TPE will write and no payment is required or possible yet.

I would like to resolve this honestly, pay any properly due fare and reasonable costs, and avoid court and the risk of a criminal record - what should I expect next? This is a real shock for me as its the first time I have ever recived a fine or official caution for anything and genuinely thought I had a card, otherwise I never would have travelled, so as you can imagine I am very worried. Should I send an explanation now, given the 21-day period in TPE’s published Railcard policy, or wait for its letter? Could the review include other operators’ journeys as I am worried as have used this railcard for other journeys since December as I (incorrectly it now seems) thought I had a valid railcard?

Thank you in advance.
We did see a case recently where I think TPE let the person off as they had bought a railcard immediately it was established they didn’t have a valid one.
They may handle your case in that way.
But they might also check your ticket buying history to look for other railcard discounted tickets after the expiration of your last railcard.

Spend some time searching for evidence of previous railcards you have had and keep that info safe in case they ask you about previous railcards.
 
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