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"X for Y" - stations that should perhaps have another name added to them but don't have at present

1D53

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'Menston for Otley' was proposed at one point but obviously never happened.
 
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I've created this thread off the back of this one:


Which is about renaming Glenrothes-with-Thornton to just Thornton, as it's confusing people, not only because it isn't in Glenrothes but also it isn't the station you want to go to to for example get a taxi or bus to Glenrothes - for that you want Markinch.

So that leads me to suggest that as well as renaming that one, they should also rename Markinch to "Markinch for Glenrothes". Unless there's a "permanent RRB" type bus service in the timetable (e.g. Keswick) this means that when someone types that place into a sales site they do get to see what station to go to for it rather than just seeing nothing and going "no train there then, best drive".

Can anyone think of any others that would make sense to have that in their name but don't? Criteria would be them being reasonably close to the place concerned but not in it, but also not a candidate for being called "Y Parkway" because they are in a reasonably sized place of its own that also needs to be in the name.

One I could think of would be "Windermere for Ambleside" - the bus connection is excellent and yet most people probably just put Ambleside in, it doesn't come up so drive instead. I note though that Trainline appear to have tagged that with "near Ambleside" so it does come up on there.

"Penrith for Keswick" would be worth it were there not a formal bus arrangement.

"Headbolt Lane for Skelmersdale" might be tenuous but there is a bus link (and if taking a taxi Maghull North would probably be better, so maybe not). "Upholland for Skelmersdale" would be a good idea if Merseyrail is ever extended to Wigan and a suitable bus service added, though Upholland is so small that "Skelmersdale Parkway" might be a better name for that.

Any more?
I really don't see why you would want to make station names longer. It just makes things more complicated for existing passengers. If you want Ambleside then Google Maps will probably recommend the Plusbus connection.
 

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Trainline however notably includes some places in the search and defaults to the nearest station, e.g. Ambleside.
There's a risk here that people won't realise the planner has defaulted to a station that's beyond an easy walk from the place selected, particularly if they are expected to rely on a bus that is infrequent or inconvenient in some other way.
 

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Cranbrook doesn’t have a direct bus connection to the airport, despite it being nearby. Passengers are advised to change at Exeter St David’s
It really ought to have a bus link, and a more frequent rail service, but that's another story.

Other options:

High Brooms for Southborough
Rye for Camber Sands
 

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I thought that Whitecraigs was nearer?

I would say Patterton myself, plus Whitecraigs is IMHO more widely recognised as a place than Patterton! Plus Whitecraigs, although not actually named as such, is described as the station for Rouken Glen Park (I have walked to the Park from Patterton too, but it is not close).
 

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What would be the point of spending significant money on changing the name of a station, to associate it with an additional community, when there are decent multi-modal (train/bus/walk) journey planners e.g. Google Maps, available for free if you actually want to know how to get somewhere by public transport (or know that you can't)?
 
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Headingley opened as Headingley and Kirkstall in 1849. It is closer to what people would consider Kirkstall than either Headingley or Kirkstall Forge stations.

If you wanted to go to Headingley Stadium for the rugby, Burley Park is closer (about half the time/distance) and equidistant for the cricket, so you could make a case for Burley Park for Headingley and Headingley for Kirkstall. Or rename Burley Park to Headingley and Headingley to Kirkstall, but neither of those is especially accurate.
If Burley Park was to be renamed, Hyde Park would be the obvious alternative (though it could confuse a few very uninformed tourists!) as that's what the area on the uphill side of the station is called.

As for assisting people going to events, I'm sure the mayor's Weaver Network changes could implement a wayfinding solution* on maps with a bit of thought... unfortunately everything the PTE or Combined Authority or whatever we're calling it this week does seems completely half-a***ed. Though it's been that way for years so it isn't all Ms. Brabin's fault.

*= Something like a football or rugby (or cricket) ball symbol by the station name on PTE maps (with the line colours brought back too of course)... although it could get awkward in the coming years while Huddersfield Giants are playing at Dewsbury!
 

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I heard it suggested in the past that the Western ‘….Road’ or ‘……Parkway’ suffix ought to be a ‘Nowhere Near…….’ prefix.

However, given the route march to GWR’s Foxhall car park perhaps it should now be ‘Didcot For Parkway’? :lol:
 

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I know it's an old joke, but...

Harwich for the Continent
Frinton for the Incontinent
 

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Daventry is very close to the M1 just south of its junction with the M6 and A14, though ...
The M1/M6/A14 junction doesn't allow turning from the northbound M1 to the eastbound A14 so this isn't actually useful to get to East Anglia. Daventry residents instead must use the A45 via Northampton and Wellingborough to connect to the A14.
 

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Weeton for Huby
Hellifield for Gisburn
Clapham for Ingleton
Giggleswick for Rathmell
Brighouse for Rastrick
Menston for Otley
Sowerby Bridge for Ripponden
Mytholmroyd for Cragg Vale
Hebden Bridge for Heptonstall
etc. etc.
 

SteveHFC

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Leagrave for Dunstable? (not sure which station in the Luton area has the best bus link to the latter though)
Definitely Luton for Dunstable - there are 14 buses per hour that run direct from Luton via the busway to Dunstable Monday to Saturday (if my maths is right). There's only 2 per hour from Leagrave (Monday to Friday only - none on Saturdays or Sundays)
 

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Southend East has had “for Southchurch Village” on its station signs since 2004, but not in its official name - though it would probably be better being re-named Southchurch altogether - it’s been a suburb of Southend rather than a separate village since 1897, so it should really just be “Southend East for Southchurch”, if the “for” is necessary, though I don’t feel like Southend East really means anything in terms of referring to a specific place - no-one calls anything except for the station that. The constituency of that name covers a far larger area, which encompasses and is closer in some places to several other stations on either side.
 
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