Whittlesea station and East Midlands Railway stopping cancellations

LowLevel said:

Indeed - the 170/1s were originally different but were modified around 2013 to the same SDO system as the /3, /5 and /6 fleet. Before that you had to be careful on certain diagrams as they couldn't serve short platforms.

Click to expand...

Class 170101 said:

Pretty certain it wasn't.

Click to expand...

dk1 said:

No, the guards operated the red deselect button in the rear cab. This stopped the doors opening on the rear coach. There was and still is no DOO on Anglia local routes.

Click to expand...

whoosh said:

170/1s when with Midland Mainline, were Driver door key switch on and release, door key switch off, Guard door key switch on and close and dispatch.
In the driving cab, there was a door deselect button that kept the leading vehicle closed and was used at Long Eaton as an example, where the stopping point for certain length trains was beyond the end of the platform.

Click to expand...

LowLevel said:

It is because the train is booked a 3 car 170, but EMR only consider the down platform suitable for releasing 1 carriage's doors as there isn't sufficient extra margin of error for stopping with 2.

The problem is there are 2 types of 3 car 170, the diagram is booked for one of the 7 x 170/4s which have door controls in all carriage saloons. However, on the 170/2 3 car sets there are only door controls in the middle carriage and rear cab accessible to the guard so you can't stop at single carriage platforms so Whittlesea gets a not to stop order.

It robs Whittlesea of it's main morning peak service and is a far from satisfactory outcome, particularly given the same units used to serve the station routinely for Anglia, however there isn't the budget to standardise the door controls and EMR don't appear to be willing to agree to work the platform with 2 coaches so that's the result.

Click to expand...