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EPR (Europhoenix Rail) - Class 60s - (Ex-ESH / DBI Rail / Land Recovery)

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ExRes

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All the 60s that ESH Rail have purchased have been moved to the MBDL pool

60001 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U
60003 MBDL TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U
60005 MBDL SANDAR BS TOTON UP U
60007 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U
60010 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U
60015 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U
60017 MBDL TOTON UP TOTON TMD U
60019 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U
60020 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U
60023 MBDL SANDAR BS TOTON UP U
60024 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U
60025 MBDL SANDAR BS TOTON UP U
60027 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON UP U
60030 MBDL TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U
60031 MBDL TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U
60033 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON UP U
60034 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON UP U
60035 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON UP U
60039 MBDL TOTON UP TOTON TMD U
60040 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U
60041 MBDL TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U
60042 MBDL TOTONN YD TOTON UP U
60043 MBDL TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U
60044 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U
60045 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON UP U
60049 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON UP U
60051 MBDL TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U
60053 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON UP U
60054 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U
60058 MBDL TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U
60059 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U
60062 MBDL TOTON UP TOTON TMD U
60063 MBDL RECTRYJCR RECTRYJCR F T
60065 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U
60066 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U
60067 MBDL TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U
60069 MBDL TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U
60071 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U
60072 MBDL TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U
60073 MBDL TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U
60074 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD 1 U
60079 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD U
60082 MBDL CREWEIEMD CRWEMDSTR U
60083 MBDL TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U
60088 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON UP U
60091 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTONPTSP U
60092 MBDL TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U
60094 MBDL TOTONPTSP TOTON UP U
60097 MBDL TOTON UP TOTON TMD U
60100 MBDL TOTON UP TOTON TMD U
60500 MBDL TOTONPTSP TOTON TMD U

Leaving 60011, not purchased, the only DB owned 60 left in the DB pool WQDA

60011 WQDA TOTON TMD TOTON TMD F U

Dan

Thanks for the list @47286Dan

So I make that 51 on this list and 12 at Radway Green with 60050 & 60086 at Colwick also said to be ESH locos, if correct that makes

65 with ESH, 17 DCR, 13 GBRf, 1 DB, 1 LSL & 3 scrapped
 

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Sandiacre Ballast Sidings - the sidings to the west of the TMD:

Many thanks.
Thanks for the list @47286Dan

So I make that 51 on this list and 12 at Radway Green with 60050 & 60086 at Colwick also said to be ESH locos, if correct that makes

65 with ESH, 17 DCR, 13 GBRf, 1 DB, 1 LSL & 3 scrapped
Assuming 50% are useable with spares stripped from others - it begs the question, where is their work?
 

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Many thanks.

Assuming 50% are useable with spares stripped from others - it begs the question, where is their work?
I read they are taking all current subcontractor work in house. But I don't know what exactly that work is, gbrf and colas have been quoted. Penmaenwawr on the north Wales coast seems to be some of the aggregate flows, but I assume there must be other work but I don't know where.
 

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Thanks for the list @47286Dan

So I make that 51 on this list and 12 at Radway Green with 60050 & 60086 at Colwick also said to be ESH locos, if correct that makes

65 with ESH, 17 DCR, 13 GBRf, 1 DB, 1 LSL & 3 scrapped

Not having much luck with my WNXX link, among others, the last couple of days but I'm told the following outlines :

There is some uncertainty over whether 60011 is actually still with DB or has also been sold to EPR

The pool movement from WQDA to MBDL is only until pools EPRO (operational) and EPRS (stored) are brought into use

60063 is to have its ESH branding changed to EPR

It's been rumoured that land has been/is to be secured at Toton

The main change (which I completely missed) is that everything is now run by Europhoenix Holdings Ltd owned by Daniel Beecroft who are now the owners of Europhoenix Rail Ltd, the new company will operate under the EPR brand with, presumably, the ESH brand gone

This is all verbal information so will need corroboration in due course
 

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Not having much luck with my WNXX link, among others, the last couple of days but I'm told the following outlines :

There is some uncertainty over whether 60011 is actually still with DB or has also been sold to EPR

The pool movement from WQDA to MBDL is only until pools EPRO (operational) and EPRS (stored) are brought into use

60063 is to have its ESH branding changed to EPR

It's been rumoured that land has been/is to be secured at Toton

The main change (which I completely missed) is that everything is now run by Europhoenix Holdings Ltd owned by Daniel Beecroft who are now the owners of Europhoenix Rail Ltd, the new company will operate under the EPR brand with, presumably, the ESH brand gone

This is all verbal information so will need corroboration in due course
Interesting thanks. Have you got any more info on timescales and what freight services they are going to run? Presumably they only have 1 class 60 available at the moment, but plenty of class 37s? Are they tied up in contract hires?
 

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I read they are taking all current subcontractor work in house. But I don't know what exactly that work is, gbrf and colas have been quoted. Penmaenwawr on the north Wales coast seems to be some of the aggregate flows, but I assume there must be other work but I don't know where.
Some of the existing work involves ballast recycling. So the trains into Bradwell, near Longport. There is a cost advantage to the construction industry using old ballast instead of new stone (aggregate tax).
 

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Many thanks.

Assuming 50% are useable with spares stripped from others - it begs the question, where is their work?
Looking at the state of those long stored locos, I rather doubt they will get 50% of these working. Those that were "recently" overhauled/modenised by DB stand a good chance of seeing further service, but as for the others - perhaps they might get around 10 to 20 up and running with the rest being used for spares. We will see !
 

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Looking at the state of those long stored locos, I rather doubt they will get 50% of these working. Those that were "recently" overhauled/modenised by DB stand a good chance of seeing further service, but as for the others - perhaps they might get around 10 to 20 up and running with the rest being used for spares. We will see !
I am only guessing but I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the locos will be needing the same components, which were probably already exchanged. wheelsets, turbos, starter motors, alternators, compressors etc. Don't know if class 60s have cannon tubes but I remember some debate about cannon tubes for class 31s being rare.

What surprises me is when DB were creating the "super 60s" they didn't fit them all with the extended range fuel tank, and I am assuming that now the class have passed to ESH/EPL those "long rangers" are scattered.
 

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What surprises me is when DB were creating the "super 60s" they didn't fit them all with the extended range fuel tank, and I am assuming that now the class have passed to ESH/EPL those "long rangers" are scattered.

I was rather surprised when the DCR Super60s were being done that 60029 didn't have extended range tanks fitted nor did 60099 recently at Loughborough, of the three currently under rebuild 60013 & 60060 don't have them while 60022 does, I see that EPR/ESH 60063 doesn't have them either
 

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Thanks for the list @47286Dan

So I make that 51 on this list and 12 at Radway Green with 60050 & 60086 at Colwick also said to be ESH locos, if correct that makes

65 with ESH, 17 DCR, 13 GBRf, 1 DB, 1 LSL & 3 scrapped
I'm racking my brains trying to think which 60 is owed by LSL?

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Aah just thought 60081 at Margate?
 

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I've lost track of what all these companies are. Does "Europheonix Rail" have anything to do with this Europheonix?
 

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Big fan of this livery overall especially with the shapes and large numbers.

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I've lost track of what all these companies are. Does "Europheonix Rail" have anything to do with this Europheonix?
The link you provided is for Europhoenix Limited. Since purchase by DBI Holdings, Europhoenix Rail Limited is a separate company.
 

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Really like the new livery and that they kept the black headlight bar. Just wish they also kept the roof wrap round warning yellow. Much better than them not working though!
 

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Nothing like applying vinyl over a fresh paintjob... It's almost as if just removing the ESH logos and replacing them with EPR ones would have done fine! But no, got to cover the whole thing for no reason!
 

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Nothing like applying vinyl over a fresh paintjob... It's almost as if just removing the ESH logos and replacing them with EPR ones would have done fine! But no, got to cover the whole thing for no reason!

I've no doubt that 60063 is now wearing the corporate identity that the owners want to put forward, they're hardly likely to change the entire Class 37 fleet to match one loco in a livery that train enthusiasts would prefer, its appearance in triple grey did its job and brought the birth of the company to peoples attention
 

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Honestly it's not the livery it already had that makes it annoying to me, I'm not bothered about triple grey, it's just the fact that it was *only just* repainted and has already had vinyls stuck over it.
It just seems like a waste to me.
 

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Honestly it's not the livery it already had that makes it annoying to me, I'm not bothered about triple grey, it's just the fact that it was *only just* repainted and has already had vinyls stuck over it.
It just seems like a waste to me.
The bodyshell would require painting regardless. The primary purpose of paint is to protect the body from corrosion: you can’t just slap sticky-back plastic on a bare shell.
 

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I am glad that transail two tone grey has gone. Awful livery. What it now wears is superb whether it be a wrap/vinyls over fresh paint or not..........
 

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