Bus Reform in North Wales - Have Your Say.

"This engagement is an opportunity to influence the future of bus services in North Wales. Feedback will help shape the development of a more connected, reliable and easy-to-use bus network. Have your say and help shape the future of bus services in North Wales”.

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Have your say on future bus services in North Wales

Help shape the future of bus services in North Wales Transport for Wales, working with local authorities across North Wales, is developing proposals for a new bus network, in preparation for bus reform. We're inviting people who live, work and travel in North Wales to

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childwallblues said:

It certainly needs a good look at. Arriva run most of the routes on the coast javing pulled out of places like Aberystwyth over the years.

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Hyebone said:

During my brief trip to north Wales a few weeks ago, I was actually pleasantly surprised about the connectivity of the local bus services. We stayed in Pwllheli which had an hourly connection each to Caernarfon and Porthmadog. Brilliant for such a small village. The 1bws ticket made it much easier too.

Onward connections from Caernarfon such as the 5 to Bangor and Llandudno, and the T2 from Porthmadog appeared strong. The 1bws ticket made it all much easier as well.

Of course, this is one example. I'd expect it to be different elsewhere.

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Wuggie Norple said:

Has there ever been a direct bus service between Ruthin and Llangollen via the Horseshoe Pass? That would be fun on a nice day on an open-top bus.

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styles said:

The bus routes are excellent in some places and barely existent in others. If you're going along to coast to one of the larger towns, they're generally great.

Gwynedd has it good, though I've often wondered how much of this is due to tourism. You wouldn't get away with ditching most of the services in north Snowdonia/Eryri as they're so heavily relied upon by visitors.

If you head over to Flintshire you can find decent connections to Queensferry or Mold, but Pentre Halkyn, Northop Hall, Wepre, all with fairly sizeable residential communities, on the other hand - there's no buses which will get you into town for a 9am start. You're lucky if there's more than a couple of services a day.

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Djgr said:

As an aside, it is proposed to rename Northop Hall.

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TheGrandWazoo said:

Gwynedd and Ynys Mon have long been decent in terms of bus services as they have had reasonably pro-active councils and have tendered out bus services over many years as few are commercial. Post Covid, the performance of Arriva was particularly poor with routes like Maesgeirchen and Bethesda now reduced to a shadow of what they were, and not forgetting the random move when they elected to just remove two boards from the main 5 route arbitrarily without resetting the timetable so every so often, there was a 40 min gap in the headway. For balance, I will say that Bangor as a traffic objective has died on its proverbial!

What I would say is that there are greater issues further east. Arriva Cymru still has a reasonable network but it's also less than what it was. Like most of Arriva, it has really suffered from the lack of investment and the ever decreasing circles of operation. The days of new Sapphire deckers on the Llandudno to Rhyl service seem a long time ago. Moreover, the performance of the local authorities is pretty dire - Flintshire is particularly bad but I'd not be nominating Denbighshire or Conwy for any awards either.

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