YorkRailFan
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E400s. Rumours of them being up for withdrawal as they're now the only E400s (non MMC) left in the fleet.
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EYFanatic
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That was normally an indication that a bus from Scarbados had come "home" for repairs and was being run in
stevieinselby
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That was what I first thought of
Maybe 827 will be done soon as well but he isn’t sure as that’s been parked up in Scarborough for a while. I think 705 may be a round for another couple of months.
Zenneth101
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I wonder why theres been no repaint for 20831 yet, are they going to do the other B5s first, looks out of place in that base GNE livery
py_megapixel
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I ended up travelling on a few of East Yorkshire's oldest Wright Geminis the other day and I have to say I was really impressed with how clean and smartly turned out they were. I often find vehicles of that age have faded exterior paintwork, tatty seat fabric (or mismatched patterns where the fabric has been replaced), worn/loose interior fittings, lots of ingrained dirt etc., but I didn't really see any of this with EY.
Also, it was noticeable that every single driver I interacted with was friendly, knowledgeable, courteous and generally a credit to themselves and the company.
All made for a very enjoyable day, and I would certainly be glad to use them again if/when I return to that part of the country.
Also, it was noticeable that every single driver I interacted with was friendly, knowledgeable, courteous and generally a credit to themselves and the company.
All made for a very enjoyable day, and I would certainly be glad to use them again if/when I return to that part of the country.
EYFanatic
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Daft idea, but maybe cover in case one of those dedicated buses for the 28 goes down... They have similar liveries after all
YorkRailFan
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20988 has been out of action anyway since early July if tracking on Bustimes is to be believed.
I hadn't realised we are allowed to be positive on this thread
Glad you had a good experience, I have to say I find the same whenever I travel with them.Eyersey468
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I'm glad to hear you enjoyed your travel with EY
EYFanatic
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Gosh, are we...?I hadn't realised we are allowed to be positive on this thread
Moderators, is this true?
In all seriousness, @py_megapixel I am glad you loved the day with EYMS because even with all the troubles they have, the drivers for the most part have a real love for the profession
Troubles? What troubles have they got?
YorkRailFan
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Having the Traffic Commissioner hold a public inquiry into the company with options to discipline under 2 separate acts kind of signifies they're having problems right now...
Here we are with a revised date.
Public Inquiry (93581) to be held at Quarry House (Leeds), LS2 7UE, Quarry House, Leeds, on 20 August 2026 commencing at 10:00 (Previous Publication2736)) Previous hearing on 11 May 2026 was adjourned. PB0000328 SI EAST YORKSHIRE MOTOR SERVICES LIMITED Director(s): MARTIN RICHARD DEAN, STUART MATTHEW FILLINGHAM, ANDREW BENSTEAD, PAUL CLARK, MATTHEW THOMAS ASHTON 252 ANLABY ROAD, HULL, HU3 2RS S17 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 17 (The Public Passenger Vehicles Act 1981) S28 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 28 (The Transport Act 1985)
Iron-man Leeds. Roads on normal route closed.. Well publicised everyone in the area should be aware
I live in Wetherby. The diversion route wasn’t followed, hence ‘unadvertised detour’.
Cesarcollie
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No. It suggests they ‘may’ have had a problem (case to be proven at the PI) in the past! That problem may be ongoing, but probably not…..
YorkRailFan
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The fact that they had already delayed said Public Inquiry could either show that the problem is still ongoing or that they're gathering more evidence for the inquiry.
Or they have been given time to demonstrate the issue has been solved. Being called to a PI under multiple reasons is not rare even for non-cowboy operators, neither is a PI being postponed.
YorkRailFan
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If the issue has been solved, what's the point in still having the inquiry then?
Dwarfer1979
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If the operator has gone to the TC/DVSA in a pre-hearing meeting and outlined a series of improvements that have been undertaken to address the issues then the TC may decide to postpone to allow the operator to prove they have addressed the matter saving the cost of a full hearing. If a subsequent DVSA visit that would be part of this process finds that the promised improvements haven't materialised the TC can hold the enquiry without having to restart the process again from the start (stops operators delaying by playing the system by making promises without ever taking the full action and forcing a full investigation to be undertaken again).
The 2 acts are always quoted and is simply the two pieces of legislation that give the Traffic Commissioners the right right to call an operator to a PI and punish you, they give absolutely no indication of what failure you have actually been called for.
The TC will often add extra checks to a PI, such as financial standing & correct Transport Manager oversight, even if the original call was just for maintenance or service reliability as those are paperwork checks (so don't need further work by the DVSA inspector which could delay the PI) and if the operator is not on top of those it may indicate bigger issues with compliance than the original inspection caught.
EYFanatic
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Would that include the sudden purchase of vehicles to the same spec as 97?
Well, it should be interesting to hear really what happens at the hearing as I am going so will report back as soon as I am out
How do you know the purchase was sudden?
Dwarfer1979
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Probably not for someone like East Yorkshire, buying new buses as a big company doesn't prove improvements in the underlying issues that may have resulted in being called up. A smaller operator who had a very old fleet may be able to show investment in new buses backed by warranty support as an long term improvement in that side.
Or that if it was sudden that it wasn't due to other unexpected needs like changes to general business, we keep buying new buses to replace old vehicles getting to the end of their life but we keep winning new contracts that increase or change requirements meaning less is withdrawn than was bought.
SF, your team are complemented and given rightful praise and you pick out the negative against the standing of the company.
EYFanatic
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Well, this is strange...
I just had an email from the Traffic Comissioner - or their office at least - in the last few minutes saying that the hearing on Thursday has been vacated and will not be relisted
I just had an email from the Traffic Comissioner - or their office at least - in the last few minutes saying that the hearing on Thursday has been vacated and will not be relisted
YorkRailFan
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They were purchased due to the existing fleet on the X46 becoming increasingly unreliable. No idea if its related to the Public Inquiry or not.
I mean, EY kind of said it themselves:
£3,1 million investment in new buses for the X46/7
We're delighted to announce a £3.1 million investment in a brand new fleet of 11 double deck buses.
You could also point to the buses not being retrofitted into EastRider spec with e-leather seats or being painted into the full EastRider livery but instead receiving decals.
Leedsbusman
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That isn’t strange. It’s not uncommon for the TC to be satisfied that whatever concern they had has been resolved and the hearing can be vacated as it is no longer required.
EYFanatic
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I agree
I just find it strange that I double checked this morning it was being held which it was and then later on the same day its cancelled
YorkRailFan
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Correct, it will run as a 58 from Castle Hill Hospital via University to Hull Interchange and then continue to Hessle Square along Anlaby Road. It looks like the 58A & 58B are school services.
58 - Hull to Hessle, via Anlaby Road
Timetable for 58 - Hull to Hessle, via Anlaby Road
The New 105 will provide an enhanced service between Hull City Centre & Cottingham Green in conjunction with the 104.
104 - Hull to Castle Hill Hospital via University and Cottingham
Timetable for 104 - Hull to Castle Hill Hospital via University and Cottingham
The 82/83/84 will only require 3 buses instead of the 4 currently as the extension to Fountains Abbey will end with schools returning. It looks like 2 of the 3 duties will be ran out of Procters Leeming Bar and the third from Pocklington - a similar set up to the present.
82 - York to Ripon via Green Hammerton, Marton, and Boroughbridge
Timetable for 82 - York to Ripon via Green Hammerton, Marton, and Boroughbridge
Edit: Just as writing this, noticed EY has published full list of service changes from 7th September:
Service Changes from 6th September 2026
More buses, better Sundays and new direct links! Our September service changes bring more choice, improved reliability and easier journeys.
There will also be timetable changes on Go Ahead West Yorkshire service 212 from 30th August:
Procters service changes from 7th September:
Bus service changes and news
Latest news and notifications of planned changes to bus routes and timetables.
www.northyorks.gov.uk
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