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Longest journey in the UK to run with stock that lacks toilet facilities

Forty29

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Although advertised as such, Lumo have been announcing toilets not available on their Stirling services on some days. Not always the same unit either so either the actual train or the equipment that discharges waste isn't working.
A loo stop at Preston has been arranged.
 
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I think with routes like that you need to consider that it really isn't intended for people travelling from Rochdale to East Didsbury as almost nobody would want to actually do that (and if they do they can pop out to the loo at Victoria and lose at worst 12 minutes). Similarly the Liz really isn't intended for actually travelling from Reading to Abbey Wood and almost nobody will actually do this; Readingites (!) will take a fast to Paddington and change there as it will save a lot of time, and hardly anyone will want to do that anyway even if it was a direct nonstop service. Things like Metrolink pair arms for operational convenience, not because people will make the end to end journey particularly often.
The same goes for some of the more extreme London Underground examples; I doubt many people go from High Barnet to Kennington and further south, or from Tooting to Camden and further north, purely via the Northern line regularly. The Metropolitan line's the only exception I can think of due to better air conditioning, longer trains and higher frequency than the Piccadilly or Chiltern, and Aldgate being a city centre terminus.
 

DelW

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It's *ahem* London Euston to Stirling, isn't it? About 6 hours!

Although advertised as such, Lumo have been announcing toilets not available on their Stirling services on some days. Not always the same unit either so either the actual train or the equipment that discharges waste isn't working.
A loo stop at Preston has been arranged.

This thread was spun off from the one discussing the Lumo situation, which in turn was prompted by media coverage of the absence of working toilets on some of their services.
 

Purple Train

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I've never heard of anyone living in Slough. I know quite a few who live "near Windsor" though. :p
Yep, guilty as charged...

And when it comes to all the talk about "realistic" Elizabeth Line journeys, I think there are a reasonable amount of journeys made into the core from the likes of Maidenhead and Twyford in spite of the faster GWR alternatives, simply to avoid the hassle of changing at Paddington. The least "realistic" part is heading to Abbey Wood. So journeys of an hour or over are quite conceivable.

What might be more conceivable is direct Shenfield-Heathrow, particularly with heavy luggage making the convenience of a direct train easier. That's basically the same as Reading-Abbey Wood at about an hour and 20 minutes, and, if we're including a realism clause, would be my answer.

Honourable mention to the Mildmay Line which is over an hour too.
 

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When the 313s were still in service Brighton-Portsmouth Harbour was over an hour and half without a bog.
Although 377s are used now, last year there was about 60,000 journeys between "Brighton" (Brighton, Hove, Portslade) and "Portsmouth" (Portsmouth Harbour, Portsmouth and Southsea, Fratton).
 

thenorthern

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Although it was never completed, I know there was controversy about the Penistone Line tram train plans as the trains don't have toilets on them. I think it was going to be about 90 min.

Other long ones include Hunts Cross to Southport (67 min) and Rochdale to East Disbury on Metrolink (1h 24m). Realistically though, these journeys are not regularly taken by most commuters.
 

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I imagine most passengers presume ther will be a loo on a train, as we know most trains do have them, but to find out there isn't becomes a challenge especially with children in tow, or for pregnant ladies etc.
 

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Yes, that is the curve at Gascoigne Wood that allows a train to travel from Selby to Pontefract Baghill, not normally used by passengers services. Actually Pontefract Baghill was the first stop after Bridlington on this service which made a big change from Nafferton or Driffield!

I've been on that curve on a TPE (presumably done for route retention).
 

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