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McGill’s Midland Bluebird

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I've noticed recently an increasing number of broken down Midland Bluebird buses. It's particularly noticeable here in Stirling, as a major route (Cornton Road) has been closed since March for water main and sewer repairs, and the diversionary route of Causewayhead Road is now very much narrower due to the policy of Stirling Council of (a) taking a huge chunk off to make two bike lanes (b) extending the pavement into the road at bus stops and (c) closing off bus bays. This means that if a bus breaks down it blocks one side of the road and chaos ensues...

Are more buses "breaking down" because now at any hint of a warning light showing the drivers have to stop, due to the TC coming down on Midland Bluebird because drivers were continuing to drive with faults?

Or is the fleet just crap?
 
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I've noticed recently an increasing number of broken down Midland Bluebird buses. It's particularly noticeable here in Stirling, as a major route (Cornton Road) has been closed since March for water main and sewer repairs, and the diversionary route of Causewayhead Road is now very much narrower due to the policy of Stirling Council of (a) taking a huge chunk off to make two bike lanes (b) extending the pavement into the road at bus stops and (c) closing off bus bays. This means that if a bus breaks down it blocks one side of the road and chaos ensues...

Are more buses "breaking down" because now at any hint of a warning light showing the drivers have to stop, due to the TC coming down on Midland Bluebird because drivers were continuing to drive with faults?

Or is the fleet just crap?
It’s nothing new. Under First, Midland Bluebird had issues with engineering.
 

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It seem Banockburn depot is closing AND amalgamating with Larbert to create one depot for Forth valley area.

This is the news given to Staff and etc yesterday, its all over Facebook groups etc with someone postage the internal message to staff.

I doubt they will be any public announcement, they have said there will not be any service changes. I have to wonder if they managed to get that ScotZeb funding if this would have stopped this.
 
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It seem Banockburn depot is closing AND amalgamating with Larbert to create one depot for Forth valley area. This is the news given to Staff and etc yesterday, its all over Facebook groups etc

I doubt they will be any public announcement, they have said there will not be any service changes.

I have to wonder if they managed to get that ScotZeb funding if this would have stopped this.
Thanks for this. Any news on where this will be located?
 

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It seem Banockburn depot is closing AND amalgamating with Larbert to create one depot for Forth valley area. This is the news given to Staff and etc yesterday, its all over Facebook groups etc

I doubt they will be any public announcement, they have said there will not be any service changes.

I have to wonder if they managed to get that ScotZeb funding if this would have stopped this.

Link to an official source please.
 

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If this is true, I’m guessing that Midland Bluebird have been unsuccessful in retaining and gaining school contracts from August which as a result could save up to 15 peak vehicles. The senior management probably believe that there is adequate accommodation to operate both the Falkirk and Stirling/Clackmannanshire networks from Larbert.
 

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Wouldn't the depot closure mean that the vehicles would have significantly more dead run miles?

Saturday 23rd May I was in Glasgow and got into Buchanan Street at 1910 missing both the last 72 and a X37 at 1900. The X36 didn't show up but around that time a Unilink branded bus on the X23 heading out West showed up in the bay used for the X36/X37. All very confusing.

X36 didn't show at all though I did see one tracking northbound a short time later in the Midland Bluebird app as though it might have turned early.

Such a pain when missing the 1900 as it's such a long wait with the kids. It's faster using Stagecoach X27/X28 to Forth Valley Hospital and then the 38 to Camelon, however there is a big jump in the cost of the travel for the day as no cross operator ticketing.
 

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If this is true, I’m guessing that Midland Bluebird have been unsuccessful in retaining and gaining school contracts from August which as a result could save up to 15 peak vehicles. The senior management probably believe that there is adequate accommodation to operate both the Falkirk and Stirling/Clackmannanshire networks from Larbert.
None of the Midland Bluebird school contracts are due for renewal this summer.
 

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Not surprising given Larbert has been cleaned up in terms of withdrawn vehicles being moved on. Probably a lot of empty space available now, don't tend to see buses parked outside the office too nowadays although that will probably be changing come August. Will there be enough for staff car parking? No doubt plenty of registered depot runs will be put on as well to get into Stirling and Alloa from Larbert as well.

It also solves the issue regarding the electric charging so perhaps those Yutongs might get moved onto other routes now. Did hear they were supposed to go on the 51/52 at one point.
 

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The newspapers have now got hold of the story: Surly you would take all the staff with you as they no way the Larbert Cleaners and mechanic could work on everything? Also someone from Mcgills has hinted at the "potential development of Bus Rapid Transit corridors across Forth Valley", that sounds rather interesting.



Staff at Stirling’s biggest bus firm have been told its Bannockburn depot will shut, with all operations moving to Camelon, near Larbert. McGill’s Midland Bluebird said it was consulting with employees and trade unions over the “potential” change that would see the Cowie Road depot close. But a message sent to McGill’s staff on May 29 from the bus operator’s human resources department and seen by The Courier suggests the decision has already been made.

It opens: “Today, we are announcing that we are amalgamating our Forth Valley operations at Larbert as part of a wider transformation of our operations across the Forth Valley region.” It goes on: “Bannockburn has played an important role serving local communities, and this decision is in no way a reflection on the dedication of the teams who work there.”

The bus firm said it was committed to engaging openly and honestly with employees and trade union groups. It also pledged to support staff with “redeployment opportunities”. The two McGill’s depots are about seven miles apart. The company said it would offer financial assistance to anyone with a longer commute as a result of the Bannockburn closure.

One employee who wished to remain anonymous said that while bus drivers could easily relocate to Camelon, they had concerns for I note McGill’s stated intentions to close the Bannockburn bus depot with concern. “While no impact to service delivery or staff headcount is anticipated, this nonetheless brings disruption to staff who have been based in Bannockburn for many years. “My thoughts are with the staff during this uncertain time. “I will relay my concerns on this development with McGill’s and seek assurances that any disruption will be minimised.” Unite the Union was contacted for comment. and other workers. A spokesperson for Midland Bluebird said: “We can confirm we are consulting on the potential consolidation of our Forth Valley network which would result in all services operating from our Larbert Depot. “This follows a comprehensive review of our operational requirements across the Forth Valley region. “Bannockburn has served local communities and supported public transport across the region for many years.

“However, with Larbert and Bannockburn located only six miles apart, continuing to operate both sites poses challenges in managing our service delivery both effectively and sustainably. “Bringing operations together has the potential to allow us to take a more coordinated regional approach, strengthening the resilience and reliability of services while creating a firmer platform for future investment.

“This includes ongoing fleet improvements, decarbonisation, and the potential development of Bus Rapid Transit corridors across Forth Valley.

“Services will continue to operate as normal as we undertake the consultation and passengers should not experience any disruption. “There will be no change to any bus routes. Our priority now is to seek the views of our colleagues and answer any questions they may have. “We will continue to engage closely with employees and their trade unions as the process moves forward.” Alasdair Tollemache, Stirling councillor and convener of the council’s Environment, Transport and Net Zero Committee said: “Bus transport plays a vital role for our communities in the Stirling area. I note McGill’s stated intentions to close the Bannockburn bus depot with concern.

“While no impact to service delivery or staff headcount is anticipated, this nonetheless brings disruption to staff who have been based in Bannockburn for many years. “My thoughts are with the staff during this uncertain time. “I will relay my concerns on this development with McGill’s and seek assurances that any disruption will be minimised.” Unite the Union was contacted for comment.
 

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What financial assistance would be provided though? Putting on staff buses? And will those drivers be specifically kept on those routes or will they need to learn the whole load of Larbert routes as well?

Be interesting to see what they do with regards to depot runs if they go in that direction, some might just be extra 38s for example into Stirling? Or H1/H2 into Alloa? Others might need to be more bespoke.
 
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What financial assistance would be provided though? Putting on staff buses? And will those drivers be specifically kept on those routes or will they need to learn the whole load of Larbert routes as well?

Be interesting to see what they do with regards to depot runs if they go in that direction, some might just be extra 38s for example into Stirling? Or H1/H2 into Alloa? Others might need to be more bespoke.
I would imagine payment of a travelling allowance to the affected staff.
 

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The newspapers have now got hold of the story: Surly you would take all the staff with you as they no way the Larbert Cleaners and mechanic could work on everything? Also someone from Mcgills has hinted at the "potential development of Bus Rapid Transit corridors across Forth Valley", that sounds rather interesting.


There may be some economies of scale in support staff. Also, the paper either doesn't understand what consulting means in this instance or is choosing to be dumb. The decision has clearly been made - they are just consulting staff on how it affects them which in some cases may mean redundancy.

Financial may well be a travelling allowance to staff for a fixed period of time.

Shame to see another old depot close but with electrification programmes, it isn't surprising.
 

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The trouble is the depot has what PVR of 25? currently its even lower now since the uni is on holiday.

Go back 10 years, and depot was alot busier, you had old 62/63 and 60 running every 20 min each, you had 57 every 20mins etc. They had a service to Dunblane. The amount of scrape sitting outside may will have outnumber the actually service buses at times over the past few years.

I dare say as long as there is room once everything is merged to allow for an extra 10-12 buses to be added to the depot then it should be fine, ( we all hope we will see some improvements )
 

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Not surprising given Larbert has been cleaned up in terms of withdrawn vehicles being moved on. Probably a lot of empty space available now, don't tend to see buses parked outside the office too nowadays although that will probably be changing come August. Will there be enough for staff car parking? No doubt plenty of registered depot runs will be put on as well to get into Stirling and Alloa from Larbert as well.
Bannockburn doesn't seem to have many specific depot runs? The only ones that I can see are the 56 trips which I would largely say would continue anyway even if the depot moved as they look like they are there in line with demand (based on the fact they run from the truck stop and around Cowie rather than starting at the depot and straight into Stirling). The only bus that goes near the depot is the 56 and the few trips on that look like they would normally do the same run anyway irrespective of where the depot is.

For some reason, the Midland Bluebird division doesn't seem to do dead mileage trips anywhere near as much as the West division does.
 

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I dare say as long as there is room once everything is merged to allow for an extra 10-12 buses to be added to the depot then it should be fine, ( we all hope we will see some improvements )
Is there much ex First scrap left now? I know McGill’s had been slowly working their way through it.
 

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It looks like Bannockburn depot is closing on 31st August, going by the reg on vosa.


  • Registration numberPM0000003/724​
  • Variation number​
  • Status New
  • Service number.H4
  • Service type Normal Stopping
  • Start point Larbert (Viaduct)
  • Finish point Alloa, Shillinghill
  • Via
  • Date received 16 Jul 2026
  • Effective date 31 Aug 2026
 

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