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TransPennine - Rolling Stock Seating
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CR165022
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Coincidentally, a TPE 802 was revealed with new seats this morning.
driver9000
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It's well known that the seat covers on the 397s haven't stood up to heavy use and are in the process of being replaced as required but replacing the material en masse with moquette has been shelved for now. The 802s are getting fully recovered seats with moquette paid for I believe by Hitachi.
dk1
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And very smart it looks too.
Suppliers from North of England help transform TPE’s Nova 1 train seating | TransPennine Express News
Businesses from across the North are helping transform one of TransPennine Express’s fleet of trains with new distinctive seat covers.
mediacentre.tpexpress.co.uk
YorksLad12
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Huzzah! The 802s are looking scruffy. Would rather they’d gone for the leather look rather than cloth, but it’s a start.
dk1
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I personally prefer the leather effect just around the headrest. Everything else cloth.
Class777
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It’s a Hitachi thing on these - despite the same seat being used across the new 2019+ TPE fleets (and same design retrofitted to the 185s), Hitachi refused to allow it citing the leather headrest as a new seat and needing rigorous testing to their standards.
Also, the haunts of the GWR launch set LA16 will always remind me why I’d rather just have full leather or full Moquette.
I thought that when I saw the press release. It’s very Lumo / Chiltern-esq (the irony there being just as TPE replaces its seat covers Chiltern now ends up with a load of TPE).
Ben Anslow
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Looks like a good improvement however what the comfort like any improvement?
How’s the seat padding now? ie does it have some
Spartacus
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How’s the seat padding now? ie does it have some
In fairness I've always found TPE's 802's seats more comfortable than LNER's units, though there have been a few just lately that I've been able to feel the bar through. The covers have definitely been getting very thin, or worse, in places too. I new hard-wearing moquette's well needed.
It's personal I guess. I had a bad back recently for a few weeks and travelled on lner and tpe and it was the tpe 802 that punished me more for forgetting to sit down slowly
Northerngirl
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Is there more padding around the head rest area, or had it just gone so flat that it had disappeared
Class777
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Apologies for the delay in responding - at first, I found the seats to be slightly firm (definitely not hard but not soft) however they are significantly better than the existing seat padding. The padding feels better on the sides and headrest area. The bottom isn't as hard as the previous fabric - but I did find it to be sufficient for a journey from Leeds to Liverpool.
It definitely feels different but once you get used to them, they don't seem too bad. I'll have to ride another refurbed unit to give a final verdict though
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It definitely feels different but once you get used to them, they don't seem too bad. I'll have to ride another refurbed unit to give a final verdict though
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Definitely a welcome improvement once you have sat down and got used to them.
Definitely not flat anymore!How’s the seat padding now? ie does it have some
It is not flat on the new seats from what I can see but I will have to ride another to confirm
waveyswirley
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I'm currently on 802204 sporting the new seat covers - definitely a big improvement!
ic31420
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Id love to know the details of some of these build and maintain train contracts.
You'd think that replacing worn out things would be included in a maintain contract. If they've worn out before expected then they was under specced. Especially if TPE can show passenger numbers / miles to be less or equal to expectations.
I work in a PFI building and everything is on a lifecycle and gets replaced after X amount of time... if it needs it or not. Some of the waste is astounding.
The problem comes when things wear out before it was foreseen. Our FM takes a pretty hardline and says not our problem replace it. But it has lead to some squabbles.
Other problems have come with things like fluorescent tubes not being available so the fittings needing to be replaced with LEDs.
Bletchleyite
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Is that a problem? LEDs are more efficient and if they aren't the cheap blue garbage provide a better quality of light too.
ic31420
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For us working under them we couldn't really care less.
The issue was the PFI co was bellyaching about the fittings being replaced out of schedule (and no doubt wanted £££)
My point to bring it back on thread was that I'd expect a good contract with a maintainer to cover issues around obsolescence, legislative change and things that don't last as long as planned / wear out. (as opposed to being damaged)