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Doncaster<>Shrewsbury Routeing

ricoblade

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Hi All - I 'm wanting to do a few days trip from Doncaster to Shrewsbury return and would like a flexible ticket.

National Rail seems to send me via Birmingham but I'd like to go via Manchester, would an off-peak return be valid by this route please?

Thanks.
 
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If I am reading correctly:
  1. DONCASTER. → WAKEFIELD GROUP → HUDDERSFIELD GROUP → STALYBRIDGE → MANCHESTER GROUP → WARRINGTON GROUP → CREWE → SHREWSBURY
  2. DONCASTER. → WAKEFIELD GROUP → HUDDERSFIELD GROUP → STALYBRIDGE → MANCHESTER GROUP → WILMSLOW GROUP → CREWE → SHREWSBURY
  3. DONCASTER. → WAKEFIELD GROUP → LEEDS GROUP → HUDDERSFIELD GROUP → STALYBRIDGE → MANCHESTER GROUP → WARRINGTON GROUP → CREWE → SHREWSBURY
  4. DONCASTER. → WAKEFIELD GROUP → LEEDS GROUP → HUDDERSFIELD GROUP → STALYBRIDGE → MANCHESTER GROUP → WILMSLOW GROUP → CREWE → SHREWSBURY
  5. DONCASTER. → WAKEFIELD GROUP → HUDDERSFIELD GROUP → HALIFAX GROUP → HEBDEN BRIDGE → MANCHESTER GROUP → WARRINGTON GROUP → CREWE → SHREWSBURY
  6. DONCASTER. → WAKEFIELD GROUP → HUDDERSFIELD GROUP → HALIFAX GROUP → HEBDEN BRIDGE → MANCHESTER GROUP → WILMSLOW GROUP → CREWE → SHREWSBURY
Other routes.
  1. DONCASTER. → SWINTON (SOUTH YORKS) → MEADOWHALL → SHEFFIELD → CHESTERFIELD → DERBY GROUP → LICHFIELD TRENT VALLEY → BIRMINGHAM GROUP → WALSALL GROUP → WOLVERHAMPTON → TELFORD → SHREWSBURY
  2. DONCASTER. → SWINTON (SOUTH YORKS) → MEADOWHALL → SHEFFIELD → CHESTERFIELD → DERBY GROUP → LICHFIELD TRENT VALLEY → BIRMINGHAM GROUP → SMETHWICK GROUP → WOLVERHAMPTON → TELFORD → SHREWSBURY
  3. DONCASTER. → SWINTON (SOUTH YORKS) → MEADOWHALL → SHEFFIELD → CHESTERFIELD → DERBY GROUP → TAMWORTH → BIRMINGHAM GROUP → WALSALL GROUP → WOLVERHAMPTON → TELFORD → SHREWSBURY
  4. DONCASTER. → SWINTON (SOUTH YORKS) → MEADOWHALL → SHEFFIELD → CHESTERFIELD → DERBY GROUP → TAMWORTH → BIRMINGHAM GROUP → SMETHWICK GROUP → WOLVERHAMPTON → TELFORD → SHREWSBURY
  5. DONCASTER. → SWINTON (SOUTH YORKS) → MEADOWHALL → SHEFFIELD → CHESTERFIELD → DERBY GROUP → LICHFIELD TRENT VALLEY → TAMWORTH → BIRMINGHAM GROUP → WALSALL GROUP → WOLVERHAMPTON → TELFORD → SHREWSBURY
  6. DONCASTER. → SWINTON (SOUTH YORKS) → MEADOWHALL → SHEFFIELD → CHESTERFIELD → DERBY GROUP → LICHFIELD TRENT VALLEY → TAMWORTH → BIRMINGHAM GROUP → SMETHWICK GROUP → WOLVERHAMPTON → TELFORD → SHREWSBURY
 

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If I am reading correctly:
  1. DONCASTER. → WAKEFIELD GROUP → HUDDERSFIELD GROUP → STALYBRIDGE → MANCHESTER GROUP → WARRINGTON GROUP → CREWE → SHREWSBURY
  2. DONCASTER. → WAKEFIELD GROUP → HUDDERSFIELD GROUP → STALYBRIDGE → MANCHESTER GROUP → WILMSLOW GROUP → CREWE → SHREWSBURY
  3. DONCASTER. → WAKEFIELD GROUP → LEEDS GROUP → HUDDERSFIELD GROUP → STALYBRIDGE → MANCHESTER GROUP → WARRINGTON GROUP → CREWE → SHREWSBURY
  4. DONCASTER. → WAKEFIELD GROUP → LEEDS GROUP → HUDDERSFIELD GROUP → STALYBRIDGE → MANCHESTER GROUP → WILMSLOW GROUP → CREWE → SHREWSBURY
  5. DONCASTER. → WAKEFIELD GROUP → HUDDERSFIELD GROUP → HALIFAX GROUP → HEBDEN BRIDGE → MANCHESTER GROUP → WARRINGTON GROUP → CREWE → SHREWSBURY
  6. DONCASTER. → WAKEFIELD GROUP → HUDDERSFIELD GROUP → HALIFAX GROUP → HEBDEN BRIDGE → MANCHESTER GROUP → WILMSLOW GROUP → CREWE → SHREWSBURY
Other routes.
  1. DONCASTER. → SWINTON (SOUTH YORKS) → MEADOWHALL → SHEFFIELD → CHESTERFIELD → DERBY GROUP → LICHFIELD TRENT VALLEY → BIRMINGHAM GROUP → WALSALL GROUP → WOLVERHAMPTON → TELFORD → SHREWSBURY
  2. DONCASTER. → SWINTON (SOUTH YORKS) → MEADOWHALL → SHEFFIELD → CHESTERFIELD → DERBY GROUP → LICHFIELD TRENT VALLEY → BIRMINGHAM GROUP → SMETHWICK GROUP → WOLVERHAMPTON → TELFORD → SHREWSBURY
  3. DONCASTER. → SWINTON (SOUTH YORKS) → MEADOWHALL → SHEFFIELD → CHESTERFIELD → DERBY GROUP → TAMWORTH → BIRMINGHAM GROUP → WALSALL GROUP → WOLVERHAMPTON → TELFORD → SHREWSBURY
  4. DONCASTER. → SWINTON (SOUTH YORKS) → MEADOWHALL → SHEFFIELD → CHESTERFIELD → DERBY GROUP → TAMWORTH → BIRMINGHAM GROUP → SMETHWICK GROUP → WOLVERHAMPTON → TELFORD → SHREWSBURY
  5. DONCASTER. → SWINTON (SOUTH YORKS) → MEADOWHALL → SHEFFIELD → CHESTERFIELD → DERBY GROUP → LICHFIELD TRENT VALLEY → TAMWORTH → BIRMINGHAM GROUP → WALSALL GROUP → WOLVERHAMPTON → TELFORD → SHREWSBURY
  6. DONCASTER. → SWINTON (SOUTH YORKS) → MEADOWHALL → SHEFFIELD → CHESTERFIELD → DERBY GROUP → LICHFIELD TRENT VALLEY → TAMWORTH → BIRMINGHAM GROUP → SMETHWICK GROUP → WOLVERHAMPTON → TELFORD → SHREWSBURY
It appears as though none of those include the "obvious" route that I would choose, which would be TPE to Stockport and TFW to Shrewsbury. That can't be the case, can it?

Would DW+MC be valid?
 

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It appears as though none of those include the "obvious" route that I would choose, which would be TPE to Stockport and TFW to Shrewsbury. That can't be the case, can it?

Would DW+MC be valid?
No (you can't just invent routes that aren't in the routeing guide like that!), but the shortest route or one within 3 miles of it are both valid. The shortest route is via Sheffield and Stockport at around 112 miles, but you originally said you wanted to go via Manchester. So you can go that way (Sheffield and Stockport) also even though it's not a mapped route. See the first page of https://iblocks-rg-publication.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/nrg_instructions.pdf
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If you go via Sheffield you can’t also go via Manchester, unless there’s an “easement” permitting it which I doubt. But if you change at Stockport as you now seem to be happy doing, that’s fine.
 
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If you go via Sheffield you can’t also go via Manchester, unless there’s an “easement” permitting it which I doubt. But if you change at Stockport as you now seem to be happy doing, that’s fine.
Just to point out that I'm not the OP on this thread. It was just that it stood out straight away to me that if you said "You're at Doncaster, how would you get to Shrewsbury" my immediate response would be "Sheffield and Stockport" (which apart from being shortest, is the fastest) and that's wasn't included on the route maps that you quoted, which seemed odd.
 

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Just to point out that I'm not the OP on this thread. It was just that it stood out straight away to me that if you said "You're at Doncaster, how would you get to Shrewsbury" my immediate response would be "Sheffield and Stockport" (which apart from being shortest, is the fastest) and that's wasn't included on the route maps that you quoted, which seemed odd.
OK, no that's normal if the "shortest route" rule applies there's no need for a map - Wilmslow to Stafford via Crewe wasn't a mapped route but clearly a valid one for example.
So if the OP doesn't want to go via Manchester, there's another option anyway.
 

ricoblade

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Just to point out that I'm not the OP on this thread. It was just that it stood out straight away to me that if you said "You're at Doncaster, how would you get to Shrewsbury" my immediate response would be "Sheffield and Stockport" (which apart from being shortest, is the fastest) and that's wasn't included on the route maps that you quoted, which seemed odd.
I am the OP so thanks for all the input, when I said "via Manchester", I'd forgotten about Stockport.

I was confused as I used the forum site to specify "via Manchester", selected an Open Return and it gave me an Off-Peak Return that I assumed was via Sheffield, but looking more closely, it routed me via Leeds! Changing the via to Stockport has given me the result I want, thanks.
 

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I am the OP so thanks for all the input, when I said "via Manchester", I'd forgotten about Stockport.

I was confused as I used the forum site to specify "via Manchester", selected an Open Return and it gave me an Off-Peak Return that I assumed was via Sheffield, but looking more closely, it routed me via Leeds! Changing the via to Stockport has given me the result I want, thanks.
Glad we could help you sort this out!

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I am the OP so thanks for all the input, when I said "via Manchester", I'd forgotten about Stockport.

I was confused as I used the forum site to specify "via Manchester", selected an Open Return and it gave me an Off-Peak Return that I assumed was via Sheffield, but looking more closely, it routed me via Leeds! Changing the via to Stockport has given me the result I want, thanks.
Just to be sure - you have received an itinerary via Stockport so it’s useful if you go that way and anyone queries it - unlikely I think. But if it’s the “any permitted” ticket we were talking about you’re perfectly entitled to go via other valid routes such as Manchester on the day if the desire takes you. Your itinerary isn’t mandatory with this ticket.
 
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