On the contrary, Project Oval is just creating whole new sets of anomalies. Living in the contactless area but with the Oval area now just outside there are anomalies for travel to and from London and for northbound journeys that mean you need to compare various sets of fares to find the best according to when you are travelling.
Not just at the weekends.
'Card not valid' message seems unsatisfactory.
No change since the 20 Greater Anglia stations that were held back from December to March went live.
Thanks! Can you clarify test fares PAT and POT?
Will Guildford via the Mole Valley line be included? The route to Dorking is already PAYG.
The map accessed via the link above shows that to be the case.
Nothing recent, though the change from Cubic to Indra is supposed to mean long talked about improvements will now happen.
Yes, there is a new OSI at Windsor. I covered it on my site last month https://oysterfares.com/new-windsor-osi/.
I'm curious to know which journey you've found where the Windsor route is more expensive. Slough to Staines is certainly cheaper via Windsor.
Slough to Twickenham, Richmond, Clapham Junction, Putney, Fulwell, Kingston, Feltham, Brentford Loop are all more expensive via Windsor.
Ah, right, I hadn't looked that far in. To be honest, I'm not surprised with some of those because you are starting off by going the wrong way.
Agreed for some - logically I’d expect the cut-off to be Twickenham (and the southbound loop from there), as this is where I’d normally go through Windsor rather than Ealing (which I do for Richmond and east thereof) - but seems they’ve gone instead for a blanket ‘everything in the Zones should be priced higher than TfL’. Still happy the option is now there though.
This is not the information I have had from GTR themselves. Oyster will charge up to the higher cap, but an automatic refund will take it down to the lower level the next day.
Aren't they already doing that with paper tickets?
I think that's been discussed at some length on this thread already, by people who can see both the benefits and the disadvantages. Where the cheapest fares have gone, it's is usually the case that single fares have reduced in price so there are always swings and roundabouts.
I don't doubt that happens if you cross the Z6/13 boundary, but it's a different matter if you don't. Either that or the TfL open data for journeys within Z13/14 is incorrect.
The capping is not part of the open data. I need to look at how I'm deciding what to show when both stations are on the same line and beyond zone 9. There are two edge cases here; travel on two extensions (eg Epsom to Gatwick Airport) or the same extension but all beyond zone 9. The latter one is interesting because if it's contactless only then there are no caps. It's quite likely that someone travelling all day between Gatwick and Merstham would not cap on contactless, but would cap at the full Oyster rate if using Oyster. Or maybe the system does stop at the Oyster cap, but it probably wouldn't be reduced. Thank you for raising this issue.
Could you explain what the bolded hyphenated phrase means please?
Yes. Shenfield is in Oyster zone 12. Caps for a higher zone cannot be lower than those for a lower zone, so Shenfield has always dictated the caps charged on the Gatwick extension, although in the last few years the Gatwick anytime cap has risen above the Shenfield anytime cap.
Ah, thanks. All goes back to the limited number of Oyster zones available in a four bit pattern?