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SWR - Haven't received prosecution letter

stuffsguy

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Hi all,

I am quite concerned as I haven't received my prosecution lettter from SWR yet. On the 26th March, I was travelling under SWR through Dorset and I short-fared my trip, I was then caught by one of the revenue protection people where he scanned my ticket and obviously saw I hadn't got the ticket for the full journey, however, he didn't ask me for my name or my postal address, he just told me I will be getting a letter through the post and that I'll have serious consequences.

What would be the most common ways that SWR would find your address in my circumstance, I have read online that they can get the billing address through TrainPal (my ticket provider) and they can also use electoral votes? I'm worried that the letter will be/has been sent to the wrong address for whatever reason.

Please let me know what the best call for action would be in my case so I can resolve the issue, obviously I'd rather be paying the fine than get a criminal record.

Thanks,
 
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They still have two months to decide whether to prosecute you for this one offence or to do a data trawl on your ticket history. How they might find your postal address I wouldn't know but clearly the RPI thought the scan was enough. If you only live at one postal address and the retailer has this to pass on all it seems to me all you can be certain of is that unless you have heard by say the end of September you may not be prosecuted. At this precise moment I'd do nothing personally - but there are others on here who may advise differently.
 
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stuffsguy

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They still have two months to decide whether to prosecute you for this one offence or to do a data trawl on your ticket history. How they might find your postal address I wouldn't know but clearly the RPI thought the scan was enough. If you only live at one postal address and the retailer has this to pass on all it seems to me all you can be certain of is that unless you have heard by say the end of September you may not be prosecuted. At this precise moment I'd do nothing personally - but there are others on here who may advise differently.
Hi

Thanks for the reply, i have read on other discussions that they could get my postal address through my billing address details from TrainPal, do you think this is the most logical step they will take considering all he did was scan my ticket?
 

SECR 65

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Hi

Thanks for the reply, i have read on other discussions that they could get my postal address through my billing address details from TrainPal, do you think this is the most logical step they will take considering all he did was scan my ticket?
I would presume that this is what they would do.

I agree with @Swedenorer that at this stage you should take no action, other than regularly check your post and emails, and maybe have a read of other SWR threads on the forum if you have not done so already.
 

stuffsguy

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I would presume that this is what they would do.

I agree with @Swedenorer that at this stage you should take no action, other than regularly check your post and emails, and maybe have a read of other SWR threads on the forum if you have not done so already.
Would it not be a good idea to email them to ask about it? Is there a chance that i have been sent correspondance without knowing?
 

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No. Do nothing at all until you are about 4 weeks away from the 6 month deadline or receive correspondence from them.

when you do receive anything post on here BEFORE you respond for best advice.
 

SECR 65

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Have you short fared before? If so (or even if not) then they will have a trawl through your ticket purchase history. If they find lots of concern, then it will take them a long time to analyse the data and hand-craft you an email, rather than a generic one. If this is the case, I would suggest 4-5 months is a realistic time to wait for correspondence from the date of the incident.

I would suspect that if SWR hear nothing in response from letter 1, they may try once more before heading to court. If indeed you were to be prosecuted without your knowledge (which we reckon would be very unlikely) then it is possible to appeal their decision retrospectively in what's called a Statuatory Declaration.

If you've still heard nothing when August becomes September, come back here and let us know.
 

stuffsguy

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Hi all, its been a month since i last posted on here and now the 6 month deadline is only 1 month away, do any of you have any advice as to what i should do next?
 

Haywain

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Hi all, its been a month since i last posted on here and now the 6 month deadline is only 1 month away, do any of you have any advice as to what i should do next?
Are you particularly keen to be prosecuted*? If not, do nothing.


*Or, alternatively, pay an out of court settlement.
 

SECR 65

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Were you given any paperwork at the time you were stopped?

You do have the option of possibly contacting them to follow up about your case. This is something that @WesternLancer has previously explained to other members. However, it is a careful balancing act.

The possible risk of doing nothing is that, if SWR are running out of time to prosecute, as they are now, they could issue an SJPN and send you straight to court without any negociation. This is, presumably, something you will be keen to avoid. That said, even when an SJPN has been issued, it is still often possible to agree an out of court settlement.

Have you short fared before?
It would be useful to have an answer to this question, if possible. Understandably, they are much more likely to want to prosecute a long-time multi-offender than someone who has only fare evaded once.

Given that the inspector did not take your name and address, it seems to me that you have not been reported formally. I would therefore suggest that you take no further action. However, make sure you always have a valid ticket for journeys in future. Normally, people get letters for fare evasion which come with serious consequences and hefty sums to pay.
 

WesternLancer

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There is no risk, as you cannot be taken to court without first being notified.
Indeed - but these notifications do sometimes go astray - as you will appreciate, and court action is only found out when something else happens - eg bailiffs writing or turning up or an attachment of earnings order send to your employer on behalf of the court.

The solution to that problem is then to engage in the Statutory Deceleration process - which takes up even more time in my view (and probably a bit more money) than seeking to resolve it before it gets to the issuing of the court papers. The outcome of the settlement, if then achieved - the bulk of what would have to be paid - would presumably be the same.

eg dealing with things like this scenario:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...onths-later-what-do-i-do.300502/#post-7737062

or this scenario:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/help-with-hmcts-baliffs.284728/

Obviously precise circumstances in those cases will be different but the tasks to then have to do would be similar

So this is what the OP needs to weigh up in terms of deciding what to do now.

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Edit - I suspect this is the reference that @SECR 65 is thinking of that I posted before (in relation to a different train company but the general points probably apply)


Assuming you have been checking post / e- mail / spam and not moved address

The reason I often suggest that if people have not heard in 4 months to come back here for further advice is as follows - and hopefully this will hep you decide what you want to do now (if anything).

As mentioned above they have 6 Months form the date of the incident to commence criminal legal action for ticket irregularity cases - including accidental ones potentially (ie prosecute you in the magistrates court). If they don't commence that process then they lose that opportunity - which is the main sanction they have over you - including getting you to pay a settlement out of court under threat of criminal prosecution.
But
T
hat needs to be set against the risk that they might do this at the last minute (send the case to court), which then commences the court process - which has a hard deadline set by the court (which you can't ask to be set back date wise) - that then makes it more difficult - because the time window is limited by the court deadlines for the case to be heard - to get an out of court settlement before the court issues a verdict (ie you are sentenced by the court)- which can make the chances of then negotiating a settlement much more pressured because of the courts time deadline. We still see people settling, but we also see the railway company just letting it go to court - which most people who come here for advice want to avoid.
But
that needs to be set against the prospect of them forgetting about you and nothing happening at all....(However, I personally think that if someone's details were taken, and esp if a case ref number was issued by the inspector - the chances of being forgotten about are not that high)

So you have a choice between:

A) Do nothing and see what happens in 6 months
(plus 2 or 3 weeks to see if you receive paperwork from the court in the post)
Pros - they might forget about you and nothing happens within the 6 months + 3 weeks period

Cons - you might get a court summons at the last minute and that might be difficult to then negotiate a settlement out of court due to the limited time available to persuade the railway company to offer one before the deadline set by the court to deal with court paperwork - there may only be a couple of weeks time to do this)

or

B) write to them now to ask what they are doing about your case
Pros
- they might respond and you can then follow the advice on the forum about how to best get an out of court settlement
- there is more time to then try to get an out of court settlement (possibly making 2 or 3 attempts if necessary) without a court deadline date ticking away

Cons - You remind them of your case when they might have forgotten about it so you can pretty much guarantee that you will probably then have to pay them the out of court settlement, or in a worst case scenario they might then decide to prosecute you, though this is not their usual procedure

Only you can decide what you want to do at this stage.

However, if you do want to write to them to find out what is happening, I suggest something very simple that simply asks them what they are doing about the matter from when you were questioned


for example - something along these lines:

SWR contact details


prosecutions@swrailway.com


Prosecutions Department

South Western Railway Ltd

FREEPOST

SWR PROSECUTIONS DEPARTMENT


Tel: 03300 950 153

Prosecutions Department
Govia Thameslink Railway
Eastside Offices
Kings Cross Railway Station
London N1C 4AX.


Today's Date

Dear Sir/ Madam

I was stopped on x date at y location and questioned about the validity of my rail ticket.

I was given this ref number xxxxx [If you were given a ref number - otherwise delete this line]

I was advised by the member of staff who spoke to me that I would hear from you in due course. Since some time has gone by since that date I would be grateful if you could let me know if there is any further action related to this that I need to respond to.

Please note my name and address is xxx

My e-mail address is: xxxx

Yours faithfully
 

stuffsguy

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Hi,
Were you given any paperwork at the time you were stopped?

You do have the option of possibly contacting them to follow up about your case. This is something that @WesternLancer has previously explained to other members. However, it is a careful balancing act.

The possible risk of doing nothing is that, if SWR are running out of time to prosecute, as they are now, they could issue an SJPN and send you straight to court without any negociation. This is, presumably, something you will be keen to avoid. That said, even when an SJPN has been issued, it is still often possible to agree an out of court settlement.


It would be useful to have an answer to this question, if possible. Understandably, they are much more likely to want to prosecute a long-time multi-offender than someone who has only fare evaded once.

Given that the inspector did not take your name and address, it seems to me that you have not been reported formally. I would therefore suggest that you take no further action. However, make sure you always have a valid ticket for journeys in future. Normally, people get letters for fare evasion which come with serious consequences and hefty sums to pay.
Hi, i wasnt given any paperwork for this.

Yeah i was thinking if i do nothing and they want to prosecute me, then they could go straight to court without any previous correspondance, making things tricky for me.

I was previously short fareing in the 10 days prior to being caught, then didnt do it again subsequently.

I have no reference number or paperwork for this offense, so if i do contact them via email will they be able to help me given the lack of info?
 

Haywain

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they could go straight to court without any previous correspondance, making things tricky for me.
They couldn't. And they couldn't be bothered when they stopped you to establish who you are.
I have no reference number or paperwork for this offense, so if i do contact them via email will they be able to help me given the lack of info?
They couldn't be bothered when they stopped you to establish who you are. I am sure that if you contact them they will be able to help you, by asking you for money and using your communication as evidence that it was you that they stopped.
 

WesternLancer

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They couldn't. And they couldn't be bothered when they stopped you to establish who you are.

They couldn't be bothered when they stopped you to establish who you are. I am sure that if you contact them they will be able to help you, by asking you for money and using your communication as evidence that it was you that they stopped.
Yes. OP should balance this advice off as suggested.

@stuffsguy - if they did not take your details (name and address) they will presumably have to rely on getting that from a ticket scan via the data linked to the ticket you held - eg the QR code / purchase details - e-mail that tickets were sent to - have you checked e-mail and spam for the e-mail account linked to your ticket purchases.
After that they would have to use the purchase card address details - are they correct for you?

If that stuff is accurate and your postal address is correct on your bank account details etc then if it did go to court the court paperwork would go to that address.

Check all that carefully

Then it's your call on what course of action to follow eg do nothing and carry on waiting (to see if anything happens) or contact them and risk that resulting in the outcome Haywain suggests.
 

SECR 65

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I think it is important that this discussion is had and presented to members enquiring. However, in this case and the circumstance of the OP, my personal opinion would be not to email and just move on from this incident.
 

Skimpot flyer

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I think it best not to make contact. If the OP has somehow been overlooked, poking a stick in the hornets nest risks being stung for the day he was caught PLUS the other days he transgressed on, which he has admitted to on this thread.
They would almost certainly trawl their travel history
 

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