Peter Sarf
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Where is 701510 ?. I think it is at Derby not some talk it has moved again.
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Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway: progress updates
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northstaffsman
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Thanks for the reply, has definitely saved me a trip.
mansonlo49
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510 went back Derby and 513 missing?
Snow1964
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Makes lot of sense, if none are ready for use then can't really train anyone except static training or moving them metre or two to practice couple/uncouple.
It's logical that it takes less time to check, validate, and update 5 vehicles, than to do 10 vehicles.
Makes sense, there are some locations where engineering works means reversing at locations that cannot handle 10cars, due to length of bay, or position of crossover.
Yes, both some services that are still shorter, and some mainline services that have not been restored since Covid cuts. I can't remember how many 450s mainline was supposed to use once the high density 450s were converted back to standard, but I would guess it was around 15-20 more than currently allocated.
Big Jumby 74
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450's were not segregated specifically by route vs number of diagrams after the high capacity units re-joined the main fleet, albeit some diagrams were still on the Windsor side. The overall daily usage contract was for 120 from 127.
Peter Sarf
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Delivery today and we have a runner already (16 minutes early).
It, 7Q87, was replaced in the wee hours by a new path that looks the same except timed for 18mph (which I doubt).
So remember to look out for a new 7Q87 not just the one "one" might have saved yesterday !.
It, 7Q87, was replaced in the wee hours by a new path that looks the same except timed for 18mph (which I doubt).
So remember to look out for a new 7Q87 not just the one "one" might have saved yesterday !.
Class73Electro
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Is this another 93 run?
Peter Sarf
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It seems to have reverted to 37s since the 93s had their brush with vegetation.
Yesterdays run was 37501 and that appears to have gone back to Bicester last night on 0H71 which was a replacement for the existing 0H71 !.
No, it is a 37 with barrier vehicles around the 701. (Doubt they want to risk another 93 !!).
Peter Sarf
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Is 701510 still at Derby though ?.
I think 701513 is at Derby but something might have gone to Bicester a couple of days ago.
mansonlo49
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I meant is that he missed out writing 701513 in the chart
Will GBR ever go back to sharing a platform at Waterloo with two separate 701/5 services, going to two different destinations? If not, why not? It used to work fine, and would help add some extra capacity on the terrible 2tph services to Chessington and Worcester Park. Off-peak used to be 4tph at WCP.
Big Jumby 74
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I suspect that scenario will have to form part of the base plan late night, when splitting 2x5 car down in to separate trains for last services and consequent overnight stabling reasons.
But it will have to on a trial basis, platform by platform at Waterloo I suspect in the first place, to understand signal sighting issues after the detachment is made. The fact two 5 cars once divided, may only have 0.5m to 1 m of clear air between them once divided may not seem much, but at the platform end, that may be enough to make a difference for the departure signal sighting of the country end unit. Some platforms at Waterloo are already at their maximum in that regard, in that detachments are barred, and certain inbound trains must depart again without detaching.
455_Maniac
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I was about to say, I could have sworn 701 513 arrived at Wimbledon from Bicester on the 23rd..
Peter Sarf
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I was thinking has that line for 513 accidentally gone when @WWTownEnth was updating it.
I have it as Bicester to Wimbledon on 21/07/2026 (506 on 23rd btw).
I am still left wondering whether 701510 has moved on from Derby so soon ?.
It only finally left SWR (Clapham Yard) for Derby on Monday 27/07/2026 after one of the 93s (93001) came to grief after getting tangled in a tree on 01/07/2026.
(My own observations are that 701510 was still at Clapham on 23/07/2026 and had disappeared by midday on 30/07/2026)
The date to Derby of 27/07/2026 is assuming the path below is correct ?.
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WWTownEnth
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Something goes wrong with the updates when I use an Ipad and I have had to wait to get in front of a PC to sort it. Hopefully this is now correct, until at least we shed more light on the mystery of 510....
Peter Sarf
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Thanks for sorting AND keeping up-to-date.
Looks correct/up-to-date unless 510 has moved on from Derby, which I doubt (that's jinxed it).
I sometimes think particular platforms take some numbers/text as meaningful codes and do unexpected things with them!.
I suspect that by this time next week Bicester will be down to none (or this will be jinxed).
mansonlo49
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thanks it looks correct now so now 510 at Litchurch lane and 513 at SWR area
A link to said footage would be helpful.
Sorry I had but it seems to have been edited out I’m not sure if I did that two ticks
Link here: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZN8e3S13T/
That’s the one thank you
Peter Sarf
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I am going for the floor going downwards when he stamps on it not the vertical panel going upwards.
But I would not say "collapsing". I think perhaps rather a lot of "give".
It might even be padding or (most likely) soundproofing under the floor finish that can be squeezed. Just like my laminate floor I laid with one of the better/thicker insulation materials available - I have some cupboards along one wall with flat bottomed sides and front and the padded feet I put on them mean you can see the floor pushed down under the pads and then bowing upwards in between, by about 3mm. A bit unpleasing as the TV is on the wall above them and it makes the floor look very uneven !.
With the angle of view it is hard to see how much movement there really is. If the camera was on the floor looking horizontally then any downward movement of the floor in relation to the panel would be easier to judge.
Goldfish62
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When the 458s were new there were instances of ceiling and side panels falling off, sometimes on to passengers.
I remember it well! And the water poured in
Goldfish62
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Yes, that as well!