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60 years ago today - England won the World Cup. I can vaguely remember it, 15 world cups later, still waiting for the next one.
We may have 3 lions on the shirt but we've still only got 1 star!
 
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Hopefully, if UEFA keep their nerve, none of the European nations will be at the next one.
Bring in a Euros every two years.....a much better competition in every way.
 

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Hopefully, if UEFA keep their nerve, none of the European nations will be at the next one.
Bring in a Euros every two years.....a much better competition in every way.
It's more if FIFA keep their nerve and continue trying to push for this.
He knows the World Cup will be a poor investment for private equity if European Clubs don't take part and he knows FIFA needs UEFA to make a World Cup the huge spectacle that it is.
I only hope after this outrageous attempt to line his pockets that Infantino gets booted out in March by someone who is much more deserving in the role.
It's blatant corruption straight from the Trump playbook.
 

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It's more if FIFA keep their nerve and continue trying to push for this.
He knows the World Cup will be a poor investment for private equity if European Clubs don't take part and he knows FIFA needs UEFA to make a World Cup the huge spectacle that it is.
I only hope after this outrageous attempt to line his pockets that Infantino gets booted out in March by someone who is much more deserving in the role.
It's blatant corruption straight from the Trump playbook.

BBC are reporting that CONCACAF have rejected his proposal, but not whether that’s because they think it’s wrong (hooray!!) or because they just want more money (boo!!)
 

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BBC are reporting that CONCACAF have rejected his proposal, but not whether that’s because they think it’s wrong (hooray!!) or because they just want more money (boo!!)
From NYT:

The Athletic reported following the Concacaf meeting, one source with knowledge of discussions said the feeling and discussion expressed among the vast majority of Concacaf members was that they are losing confidence, or have lost confidence altogether in Infantino as FIFA President. A second person considered that to be a slightly stronger description of the meeting than they took away from it, but acknowledged widespread concerns over the current FIFA approach to leadership and transparency.

 

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It's more if FIFA keep their nerve and continue trying to push for this.
He knows the World Cup will be a poor investment for private equity if European Clubs don't take part and he knows FIFA needs UEFA to make a World Cup the huge spectacle that it is.
I only hope after this outrageous attempt to line his pockets that Infantino gets booted out in March by someone who is much more deserving in the role.
It's blatant corruption straight from the Trump playbook.
Especially as he is trying to bribe the smaller countries with $40 million to push his plans to line his own pockets even further
 

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I wasn't saying they were "wrong".
There is a fine nuance (probably overlooked by most) - singular verb when the body concerned is acting corporately or “as one”, plural verb when it’s clearly referring to a group of individuals. “Aston Villa boosts the local economy by xyz million” vs “Aston Villa are struggling to avoid relegation” (Sorry, your Royal Highness!)
 

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IMHO, UEFA Are right to boycott FIFA it's telling just who is named as the facilitator, of this plan to sell FIFA, no less than a member of the extended Trump family, it's just more corruption on top of the existing corruption, next it will be pay to win, next world cup decided on who pays the biggest bung only corrupt countries need to apply,
 

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BBC are reporting that CONCACAF have rejected his proposal, but not whether that’s because they think it’s wrong (hooray!!) or because they just want more money (boo!!)
It's now being reported that the Asian Football Confederation have also come out against the proposal, which means a majority are against it (based on collective voting). Or, as the journalist Henry Winter puts it, "it's definitely over".
 

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It's now being reported that the Asian Football Confederation have also come out against the proposal, which means a majority are against it (based on collective voting). Or, as the journalist Henry Winter puts it, "it's definitely over".
That is a bit more of a surprise, as we know Infantino never had support in UEFA or CONCACAF, but did have some in Asia. This has been disastrous for FIFA so far.
 

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That is a bit more of a surprise, as we know Infantino never had support in UEFA or CONCACAF, but did have some in Asia. This has been disastrous for FIFA so far.
Selling the rights to tournaments or sporting competitions to private equity isn't a new thing. F1 and MotoGP are owned by Liberty Media, the rugby Premiership is now owned by CVC Partners.

It all comes down to money. The amount FIFA could raise from a sale needs to be split across 200 football associations and so the bigger nations simply don't see the point. $20m to the big nations in UEFA or even CONCACAF is little more than pocket money. I bet they'd support it if they were getting more money from it.
 

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so the bigger nations simply don't see the point. $20m to the big nations in UEFA or even CONCACAF is little more than pocket money. I bet they'd support it if they were getting more money from it.
I think the bigger nations are also starting to take notice of the objections from players (or their unions) to having more and more football and can see how this could affect domestic and continental competitions.
 

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And now, apparently, the senior advisor to Infantino haas quite, claiming he knew nothing of this scheme,

So is it me but it's strange how the brother- in-law, of Trumps favorite daughter, was going to be controlling it, and it sounds like a stitch up between Infantino and trumps family, I wonder if that's why Trump got a nice shiny gold award? someone knew what it takes to get his limited attention,
 

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Of all the venture capitalists Infantino just seems - without consulting his key colleagues - to have alighted on the one that’s closest to the Trump family without having Trump in its name. It’s uncanny. What are the odds?
 

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Elsewhere in football, a sad day as legendary former AC Milan and Italy captain Franco Baresi has passed away aged 66.

He was an absolutely top class defender and an even better captain and leader.
 

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Elsewhere in football, a sad day as legendary former AC Milan and Italy captain Franco Baresi has passed away aged 66.

He was an absolutely top class defender and an even better captain and leader.
Baresi was an inspiration to watch as a defender. He read the game more than any other defender I have ever seen. A sad loss of a footballing legend! :'(
 

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So is it me but it's strange how the brother- in-law, of Trumps favorite daughter, was going to be controlling it, and it sounds like a stitch up between Infantino and trumps family, I wonder if that's why Trump got a nice shiny gold award? someone knew what it takes to get his limited attention,
Yes, amongst the many, many problems with this proposal is that there has been no due process around selecting a commercial partner (assuming that one is necessary....)
 

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Looks like Infantino's money making plans have failed with the Asian Football Association saying they would vote against it.
 

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I think he, Infantino, will resign now, how can he stay on? his reputation is in tatters,

FIFA now have a greater problem, Is Infantino just corrupt, or is he a symptom of a greater problem, with in FIFA itself?

that he, apparently without gaining approval from the rest of FIFA, was attempting to come to a deal that involved members of the Trump family who, are considered to be corrupt, and unprincipled must reflect badly on FIFA,

That Seb Blatter, who was imprisoned for breaking the law, himself, found it unacceptable must speak volumes.
 

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Infantino is more slippery than spreadable butter in a heatwave. He won't go anywhere unless he's pushed.
Strange to think that back when he was elected, Infantino was seen as less dodgy than the Sheikh from Bahrain.
 

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Infantino is more slippery than spreadable butter in a heatwave. He won't go anywhere unless he's pushed.
I actually do think that there will be so much pressure now on FIFA, both internally and externally, that he will jump, before he is pushed, he has already had to bow to pressure, and his reelection odds must have slumped
 

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Infantino comes up for re-election in 8 months time and he won't be re-elected, so he will probably go before then with a nice big payoff.
 

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