Isn't there a certain part of depot that a 10 car can't fit unless it's split for maintenance?
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Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway: progress updates
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norbitonflyer
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The wheel lathe?
It feels somewhat academic whether we're not fulfilling 51 or not fulfilling 52 when the end result is that I've not been on a 701 in over a week. It would be nice if the 458s could be juggled around a bit so that the crappy aircon is shared amongst all passengers!
Possibly, am sure I read that 10 car units would need to be spilt on depot for certain tasks.
NSEWonderer
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Thats only going to be a 10 coach 701 being split into a 5.
Peter Sarf
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Bound t be a 10car (701/0) split between coaches 5 and 6.
Yes, that is my understanding.
Yes. the 5car (701/5s) cannot be ceasily split AND they do not need to be split.
I remember it being said something along the lines that the 701/0s are effectively two 5car 701s but with the cabs missing at the inner end.
NSEWonderer
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They are and you'll find the two delner couplers and the two sets of combined headlight, tailight and markers on the two halves
mansonlo49
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The coupler of the 701/0 differs as seen in these 2 pictures
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NSEWonderer
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You'll also see the whistle there too as seen on the left vehicle.
mansonlo49
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what’s that thanks
NSEWonderer
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Left vehicle, near the bottom of it, what looks like a cylinder with a grill on it
Peter Sarf
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I notice the gangway connection is different unsurprisingly. But does that mean the coaches are a wee bit further apart or are coaches 5 and 6 a little shorter to counter that ?.
norbitonflyer
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Probably not necessary. Two x /5 are suppsoed to be exactly the same length as 1 x /0 - that was the point of the different cab design compared with 710s and 720s. So the doors would be at the same place on the platfoprms regardless of which subclass the trains were formed of. GA got round the same problem by changing the order to be all 5-car
NSEWonderer
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5 and 6 end coaches are just differently arranged to accommodate the couplers, rear end cameras, lights etc. The lengths are of the two 701 half units in the 701/0 are indeed the same as if they were two 701/5s together
Bobcp
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Class 701/5 scheduled movements on to and off of SWR territory on Tuesday 21st. July.
5Q87 -- 09.42 Bicester MOD to Wimbledon Park Depot Sidings 14.00
5Q58 -- 10.56 Clapham Yard to Derby Litchurch Lane 14.59
5Q87 -- 09.42 Bicester MOD to Wimbledon Park Depot Sidings 14.00
5Q58 -- 10.56 Clapham Yard to Derby Litchurch Lane 14.59
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norbitonflyer
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Back in service yesterday after a week's absence
mansonlo49
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should be the 701510 which delayed few weeks ago
WWTownEnth
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It has indeed vanished from where I took the pic when I travelled through on thursday.
mansonlo49
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0V71 had arrived Bicester
Bobcp
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Reported to be 37510
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starlight73
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I just saw 701513 being dragged through Twickenham at about 12:42.
Alt text: video shows the back of a 701 513 passing through Twickenham platform 5 (towards oopsstrawberry hill) at speed.
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Alt text: video shows the back of a 701 513 passing through Twickenham platform 5 (towards oops
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mansonlo49
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Peter Sarf
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Yep, the 93s and 701510 meant to got to Derby are still there circa 13:00. That's two weeks iirc ?. They must be wasting space - even if a non 3rd rail siding.
It makes me think 93s delivering to the South Western anymore will not be likely. Certainly been 37s since the 93(s) encounter with the tree branches. Even hired in Europhoenix 37510 today instead of 37884 last week.
Towards Feltham and Chertsey, not the short way round via Strawberry Hill.
I wonder why the path is booked the longer loop out via Chertsey ?.
mansonlo49
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The loco went back to Bicester after dropping 701513, another drag later on?
Peter Sarf
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These two in the system for Thursday 23/07/2026.
5Q78 Bicester to Wimbledon.
then
0M57 light locomotive to Derby
It looks like they prefer to bring one at a time - perhaps it is a lot easier than hoping to get two 701/5s to talk with the locomotive at the same time ?.
I think 710506 & 701513 were supposed to be the pair coming last Tuesday (which of course ended up as 701523 alone but two days late).
5Q78 Bicester to Wimbledon.
then
0M57 light locomotive to Derby
It looks like they prefer to bring one at a time - perhaps it is a lot easier than hoping to get two 701/5s to talk with the locomotive at the same time ?.
I think 710506 & 701513 were supposed to be the pair coming last Tuesday (which of course ended up as 701523 alone but two days late).
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17 five car units now on SWR turf…..5 still in storage at Bicester
mansonlo49
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another coming out of Bicester tomorrow if it goes