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Far North Line - how could it be improved?

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Good afternoon all!

I travelled from Inverness to Wick and back yesterday and wondering if the service could be improved? A few ideas:
- Many request stops we passed through without stopping but the speed boards said 55 or 65 speed limits. Could journey times be reduced by much if these stops were removed so the trains could stay at linespeed?
- Could the frequency be increased to 1tp2h throughout/south of Tain? And/Or be really ambitious and go for 1tph south of Tain? The southbound service certainly picked up more and more passengers the closer we got to Inverness. However the northbound service was not particularly busy north of Brora.
- Could Georgemas Junction only be served once per journey i.e. only when the train has to reverse? So if you wanted to go from Georgemas to Wick you would have to get on before it goes to Thurso and vice versa, to improve journey times to/from Wick?

I would be interested to hear anyone thoughts and ideas to add to the discussion!
 
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For end to end travel, no major investment in the rail service is likely to be worth the money. The FNL is one of my favourite lines, but ultimately it's a very slow railway that isn't particularly useful north of Rogart. Buses can reach Golspie and places further north over half an hour faster as they can take the bridges via Dornoch, not to mention they're much cheaper and also electric.

Rail is in most cases a fundamentally better suited mode of travel for long distances - it's more comfortable, higher capacity, and can reach higher speeds. Between Inverness and Caithness though, Ember wins in all those three categories. To get to the point where you actually reap the benefits of running trains and not buses, you'd have to get the quality of the service up to Highland Mainline levels at a minimum. No Scottish Government will ever pay for that. It's frustrating but at the same time perfectly makes sense - a £100M project in the Highlands will positively affect a small fraction of the people that the same investment in the Central Belt would, so it's lower priority.

So if it were up to me, thinking of actually feasible ways of improving the service, here's what I'd do:
- 1tph Inverness to Tain, extending to either Lairg (timed bus connections to various towns in Sutherland) or Golspie (to give Rogart a train service) every 2-3 hours.
- Tourist service with panorama cars from Inverness to Wick or Thurso, running 2-3 times a day.
- Hourly (or half-hourly) coach route from Inverness to Wick and/or Thurso

I'm not sure what exactly would be the best solution for the places inbetween Helmsdale and Georgemas Junction (e.g. Kinbrace/Forsinard) as it's off the main bus route to Wick and Thurso. A timed bus connection off the main coach route would be a solution, although it wouldn't be a great alternative to the 1-seat train ride that currently exists, even if it'd be over an hour faster. Alternatively a Helmsdale - Thurso/Wick train service could be retained, connecting off the main Inverness coach route.

An similar situation exists in northern Spain, on the various narrow-gauge lines. The through services between the larger settlements (e.g. Ferrol, Oviedo, Santander, Bilbao) are very scenic but much slower than the services provided by various long-distance coach companies. Rolling stock is unsuitable and line condition is poor, but that's more due to decades of Renfe/FEVE neglect.

The strategy has essentially been to develop and invest in the route as far as 1-2h out of the cities, running a fairly frequent commuter service. Then the rural gap inbetween has a barebones 2-per-day train service plus the occasional tourist train. End-to-end travellers can take coach services - which, while they could certainly do with some more fares regulation and co-ordination, do the job fairly well. This solution isn't anywhere near perfect, but it makes the most use of lines that are otherwise complete basket cases, which likely wouldn't otherwise get close to the top of the investment priority list.

Essentially, a compromise is needed. Trying to make an intercity line out of a slow and winding regional rail route means spending a lot of money on a service that will be ultimately outcompeted by the long-distance bus anyway. You'd most likely make a few enemies while doing it too, as closing stations like Altnabreac, Scotscalder or Culrain is overall likely beneficial but very politically unpopular. At the same time, if we don't want to close the line, doing nothing isn't a great solution, as the line is a money sink. As much as a 125mph Inverness-Caithness railway would be the optimal solution, it won't happen in our lifetimes.

So the first thing ScotRail should do is accept is that it won't win the competition against Ember and Stagecoach for those flows, unless it has a few £billion to spare. The next thing is to make the most of what they have, and recognise what they can fit within their budget. For the Far North Line, the train is faster than the bus as far as Lairg, so that's the section which they should focus on. The northernmost section of the route (Wick-Thurso-Helmsdale) is useful too. Then, if they can afford the upfront costs, they may as well make use of the scenic nature of the route and run a few Swiss-style tourist train money spinners.
 
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For end to end travel, no major investment in the rail service is likely to be worth the money. The FNL is one of my favourite lines, but ultimately it's a very slow railway that isn't particularly useful north of Rogart. Buses can reach Golspie and places further north over half an hour faster as they can take the bridges via Dornoch, not to mention they're much cheaper and also electric.

Rail is in most cases a fundamentally better suited mode of travel for long distances - it's more comfortable, higher capacity, and can reach higher speeds. Between Inverness and Caithness though, Ember wins in all those three categories. To get to the point where you actually reap the benefits of running trains and not buses, you'd have to get the quality of the service up to Highland Mainline levels at a minimum. No Scottish Government will ever pay for that. It's frustrating but at the same time perfectly makes sense - a £100M project in the Highlands will positively affect a small fraction of the people that the same investment in the Central Belt would, so it's lower priority.

So if it were up to me, thinking of actually feasible ways of improving the service, here's what I'd do:
- 1tph Inverness to Tain, extending to either Lairg (timed bus connections to various towns in Sutherland) or Golspie (to give Rogart a train service) every 2-3 hours.
- Tourist service with panorama cars from Inverness to Wick or Thurso, running 2-3 times a day.
- Hourly (or half-hourly) coach route from Inverness to Wick and/or Thurso

I'm not sure what exactly would be the best solution for the places inbetween Helmsdale and Georgemas Junction (e.g. Kinbrace/Forsinard) as it's off the main bus route to Wick and Thurso. A timed bus connection off the main coach route would be a solution, although it wouldn't be a great alternative to the 1-seat train ride that currently exists, even if it'd be over an hour faster. Alternatively a Helmsdale - Thurso/Wick train service could be retained, connecting off the main Inverness coach route.

An similar situation exists in northern Spain, on the various narrow-gauge lines. The through services between the larger settlements (e.g. Ferrol, Oviedo, Santander, Bilbao) are very scenic but much slower than the services provided by various long-distance coach companies. Rolling stock is unsuitable and line condition is poor, but that's more due to decades of Renfe/FEVE neglect.

The strategy has essentially been to develop and invest in the route as far as 1-2h out of the cities, running a fairly frequent commuter service. Then the rural gap inbetween has a barebones 2-per-day train service plus the occasional tourist train. End-to-end travellers can take coach services - which, while they could certainly do with some more fares regulation and co-ordination, do the job fairly well. This solution isn't anywhere near perfect, but it makes the most use of lines that are otherwise complete basket cases, which likely wouldn't otherwise get close to the top of the investment priority list.

Essentially, a compromise is needed. Trying to make an intercity line out of a slow and winding regional rail route means spending a lot of money on a service that will be ultimately outcompeted by the long-distance bus anyway. You'd most likely make a few enemies while doing it too, as closing stations like Altnabreac, Scotscalder or Culrain is overall likely beneficial but very politically unpopular. At the same time, if we don't want to close the line, doing nothing isn't a great solution, as the line is a money sink. As much as a 125mph Inverness-Caithness railway would be the optimal solution, it won't happen in our lifetimes.

So the first thing ScotRail should do is accept is that it won't win the competition against Ember and Citylink for those flows, unless it has a few £billion to spare. The next thing is to make the most of what they have, and recognise what they can fit within their budget. For the Far North Line, the train is faster than the bus as far as Lairg, so that's the section which they should focus on. The northernmost section of the route (Wick-Thurso-Helmsdale) is useful too. Then, if they can afford the upfront costs, they may as well make use of the scenic nature of the route and run a few Swiss-style tourist train money spinners.
Thank you for your detail response! So I think the best option would be as you say, improve Tain-Inverness as this is where the passengers are, leaving the service further north as is.
 

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Thank you for your detail response! So I think the best option would be as you say, improve Tain-Inverness as this is where the passengers are, leaving the service further north as is.
Agree, though own my own recent visit I would have welcomed a later southbound train, or later bus than either operator provides.

I can't see any mileage in a Far North Glacier Express (the views are lovely but the mountains are distant. Something like the French Train des Merveilles might be more suited to the Highland routes generally, but even then there's not much to comment on between Clachnaharry and Ardgay :(
 

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Improvement is probably about how you keep a viable (ie: usable, but not unrealistic) train service year round yet make it attractive for tourists as well. I'm not sure how much multi-modal ticketing is available to allow use of train, bus and ferries for those so minded to do so. Then it's probably little things like have the trains lower density seating for good window alignment, more tables - It's not a high density commuter route.
 

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I can't see any mileage in a Far North Glacier Express (the views are lovely but the mountains are distant. Something like the French Train des Merveilles might be more suited to the Highland routes generally, but even then there's not much to comment on between Clachnaharry and Ardgay :(
It's a fair bit longer than the average heritage line, but I wonder how popular it would be if the line north of Lairg or Golspie were converted to heritage rail, or indeed something similar to the Merveilles line where local traffic is carried but at the same time there's commentary on the scenery and history of the line (inc. a 5 min stop at Altnabreac for photos ;)).

All this assumes that the deregulated coach market could be regulated to some extent, either through franchising or enhanced partnerships, as at the moment I wouldn't support closing a rail line if it's not 100% certain that the parallel bus service would be permanently funded and not degraded over the years.

Ember and Stagecoach provide a great service which I'd pick over the train if I was a regular traveller, but the timetables aren't designed optimally - e.g. in the Inverness-Wick timetable there's a 10:50, a 10:59, a 14:20 and a 14:34 - this isn't a timetable designed with utility in mind, it's Ember trying to abstract passengers from Stagecoach. Furthermore, the routes could be withdrawn at any time if the private investors withdraw their funding or usage drops for a season.

Looking at ways to improve Inverness - Highlands transport connections as a whole, I do think that although the rail line does have potential, especially between Inverness and Tain/Lairg, the priority should probably be to try to coordinate Ember and Stagecoach timetables to provide a clockface every 90 or 120 mins schedule between Inverness and Wick/Thurso. It's a low-cost strategy that would increase public transport growth by an amount that would require millions of pounds to achieve purely through rail investment.
 
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Looking at ways to improve Inverness - Highlands transport connections as a whole, I do think that although the rail line does have potential, especially between Inverness and Tain/Lairg, the priority should probably be to try to coordinate Ember and Citylink's timetables to provide a clockface every 90 or 120 mins schedule between Inverness and Wick/Thurso. It's a low-cost strategy that would increase public transport growth by an amount that would require millions of pounds to achieve purely through rail investment.

You have to be slightly careful about collusion between Ember and Citylink so as not to end up with Cartel behaviour.
 

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Ember is much quicker to Wick, due to route of A9 vs railway, it’s pretty much evens to Thurso.

A triangle at Georgemas Junction and a Halkirk Station would be good enhancements at the Northern end.

The long debated (and supposed to be approaching delivery??) loop between Inverness and Beauly would be transformative for both reliability and potential to increase service frequency at the Southern end of the line.

ScotGov proposes OHLE to Tain. Faster accelerating trains that can take advantage of faster line speed stretches to the full will help with journey times. There are sections of 90mph which could probably be lifted if the rolling stock were up to it, but the 158s spend a good bit of the route going flat out getting nowhere fast!

I’d like to see the Inner Moray Firth section reach Borders Railway frequency.
 

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Ember is much quicker to Wick, due to route of A9 vs railway, it’s pretty much evens to Thurso.

A triangle at Georgemas Junction and a Halkirk Station would be good enhancements at the Northern end.
A potentially cheaper solution could be curtailing the Inverness-Wick service to Thurso, and running a separate shuttle service between Georgemas and Wick. Reduces Inverness-Wick journey times by around half an hour, although it's still 1h slower than Ember/Stagecoach. The main issue though is how to sort out getting 1 driver specfically to run 2-3 shuttle trains a day and basically nothing else.
 
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The main issue though is how to sort out getting 1 driver specfically to run 2-3 shuttle trains a day and basically nothing else.
It'd probably need more than one driver considering shift lengths. To make any sense that service would need to trundle back and forth all day. I would be surprised if there was enough traffic between Thurso & Wick to justify such a thing, though.
 

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One quick win would be to allow higher speeds through the loops. There are some long loops which are restricted to 15 mph (entry speed) which i am told could be increased to 40 mph. That, over several loops could save a few minutes.
As mentioned above a new passing loop between Inverness and Dingwall is needed which would greatly aid reiability. If a path is missed at Dingwall it can be a 40 minute wait at presnt and connections missed at Inverness going south.
 

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I like the idea but assume a business case would presumably be pretty hopeless.
Agreed.
There's possibly a case for the OPEX of a setup where the only 'mainline' junction is the one facing Thurso, and the direct line from Inverness to Wick is a double-ended siding with ground frames for access. But this would require significant Capex (as well as likely requiring moving Georgemas Jn platform to the Thurso side of the triangle) and so will be almost impossible to secure funding for.
 

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Agreed.
There's possibly a case for the OPEX of a setup where the only 'mainline' junction is the one facing Thurso, and the direct line from Inverness to Wick is a double-ended siding with ground frames for access. But this would require significant Capex (as well as likely requiring moving Georgemas Jn platform to the Thurso side of the triangle) and so will be almost impossible to secure funding for.
Potentially a Halkirk station could replace Georgemas (less than 2 mils between the two), I imagine a decent proportion of the small number of passengers who use Georgemas as a railhead are either going to/from Halkirk, or being picked up/dropped off by car to/from Wick to save around 30 minutes on the journey. Halkirk is the only location between Helmsdale and Georgemas that even justifies 'village' status.
 

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Potentially a Halkirk station could replace Georgemas (less than 2 mils between the two), I imagine a decent proportion of the small number of passengers who use Georgemas as a railhead are either going to/from Halkirk, or being picked up/dropped off by car to/from Wick to save around 30 minutes on the journey. Halkirk is the only location between Helmsdale and Georgemas that even justifies 'village' status.
It could probably replace Scotscalder, as well. Though that does depend on who actually uses the two existing stations.
 

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You have to be slightly careful about collusion between Ember and Citylink so as not to end up with Cartel behaviour.
The prices are already capped in the Far North by the local authority, what is there for them to conspire about? Running two buses 15 minutes apart then a 3 hour gap is about the worst possible situation.

Surely the answer is to get them to use their resources to provide a more even service, and split the revenue between them for it.
 

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Potentially a Halkirk station could replace Georgemas (less than 2 mils between the two), I imagine a decent proportion of the small number of passengers who use Georgemas as a railhead are either going to/from Halkirk, or being picked up/dropped off by car to/from Wick to save around 30 minutes on the journey. Halkirk is the only location between Helmsdale and Georgemas that even justifies 'village' status.
It could probably replace Scotscalder, as well. Though that does depend on who actually uses the two existing stations.
Whatever you called it, the point being is that if you opened up the curve in red, you'd close the station at the green cross and replace it with a station somewhere near the pink circle:
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[Image from OpenRailwayMap showing the Georgemas junction area, annotated to illustrate the points described above]
 

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Potentially a Halkirk station could replace Georgemas (less than 2 mils between the two), I imagine a decent proportion of the small number of passengers who use Georgemas as a railhead are either going to/from Halkirk, or being picked up/dropped off by car to/from Wick to save around 30 minutes on the journey. Halkirk is the only location between Helmsdale and Georgemas that even justifies 'village' status.

Why is it that it goes to Thurso first? Surely the extra reverses wipe out most of the gain over doing it the other way round?

Inverness-Georgemas-Thurso-Wick-Thurso-Georgemas-Inverness is 5 reverses, if you did Inverness-Wick-Thurso-Wick-Inverness that's only three.

As for a Halkirk station I'd put it where the railway crosses the C1018. If it's not walking distance there's little point bothering moving it.
 

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As for a Halkirk station I'd put it where the railway crosses the C1018. If it's not walking distance there's little point bothering moving it
By the Bridge Street level crossing? That's where I'd put it to be walkable from the village. Thigh obviously this is crayoning based on Google maps, so pretty worthless.
 

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By the Bridge Street level crossing? That's where I'd put it to be walkable from the village.

Yes, there.

Thigh obviously this is crayoning based on Google maps, so pretty worthless.

Fairly sure that is where the former (now stupidly* closed) one was.

* "Let's close a station actually nearer the largest settlement for miles around and keep the one** in the middle of nowhere" - a fine piece of folly!
** OK, Georgemas was a split/join point, but Scotscalder?!
 

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Why is it that it goes to Thurso first? Surely the extra reverses wipe out most of the gain over doing it the other way round?

Inverness-Georgemas-Thurso-Wick-Thurso-Georgemas-Inverness is 5 reverses, if you did Inverness-Wick-Thurso-Wick-Inverness that's only three.
3/4 Minutes allowed for reversal, Georgemas Jn - Thurso is 10 minutes runtime, Georgemas Jn - Wick is 17 minutes runtime
(https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C15068/2026-07-20#allox_id=1)

Going to Wick first and then terminating Thurso would mean running to Georgemas-Wick section 2 extra times, so 14 extra minutes, compared to the 2 extra reversals = 8 minutes.
As for a Halkirk station I'd put it where the railway crosses the C1018. If it's not walking distance there's little point bothering moving it.
Normally I'd agree, but in this instance putting the station south of the junction would increase journey times to/from Wick significantly, and I don't see more than 1 station being justified.
From an approximate centre (the centre of Sinclair Square) of Halkirk to the C1018 level crossing via streets is c.1.4km, whereas to the B874 level crossing is 1.9km.
 

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Normally I'd agree, but in this instance putting the station south of the junction would increase journey times to/from Wick significantly, and I don't see more than 1 station being justified.
From an approximate centre (the centre of Sinclair Square) of Halkirk to the C1018 level crossing via streets is c.1.4km, whereas to the B874 level crossing is 1.9km.

I'd counter that with two points.

1. Hardly anybody (bar kids maybe) will go Halkirk-Wick by train. They will drive. The train will be for occasional Inverness journeys.
2. I'd look at the closest houses, not a nominal centre. An error most railway people make frequently (usually when discussing air travel) is to assume all journeys are centre to centre. They aren't, they are mostly suburb to centre (but Halkirk is an origin, not a destination). Those too far to walk to it will drive anyway; what's of more relevance is bringing some houses (rather than none) into a nominal 500m walking distance which is what is usually used to work out who will walk to a public transport facility and who won't.

Moving the station to the B874 location is pointless. It will not be used any more than Georgemas in its present location.
 

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Thurso passenger useage is just over double that of Wick although admittedly there could be suppressed demand at Wick due to extended journey time.
Thurso has marginally higher population plus probably a small amount of traffic for the Orkney ferry from Scrabster (which we did once some years ago).

The traincrew depot is in Wick, back in loco hauled days there were traincrew depots at both towns.
 
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How fast could an express from Inverness to Thurso get? There might be appeal in having a fast service leaving soon after the sleeper arrives (and before the up sleeper departs), calling only at Muir of Ord, Dingwall, Invergordon, Tain, then non-stop to Georgemas Jct, apart from maybe a call at Lairg or Helmsdale if passing another service is required.
 

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How fast could an express from Inverness to Thurso get? There might be appeal in having a fast service leaving soon after the sleeper arrives (and before the up sleeper departs), calling only at Muir of Ord, Dingwall, Invergordon, Tain, then non-stop to Georgemas Jct, apart from maybe a call at Lairg or Helmsdale if passing another service is required.

The problem with doing this is very similar to the problem with express services on the Settle-Carlisle - it is infrequent and thus substantially degrades the service for many users. Thus only all-stations services can really be justified (though I think the early morning one misses the request stops this may be lighting related). There may be justification for closing some stations e.g. Scotscalder* as they just serve nothing, but otherwise I think this is weak.

* Yes, and Altnabreac, but out of principle the station must not be closed until such time as a certain couple no longer live there, as otherwise a very dangerous precedent is set.
 

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How fast could an express from Inverness to Thurso get? There might be appeal in having a fast service leaving soon after the sleeper arrives (and before the up sleeper departs), calling only at Muir of Ord, Dingwall, Invergordon, Tain, then non-stop to Georgemas Jct, apart from maybe a call at Lairg or Helmsdale if passing another service is required.
Without signalling changes, all trains need to stop for 1 minute at least at Token Exchange Points (TEPs) regardless of whether or not they make a passenger stop.

TEPs: Rose Street (if not coming from Inverness), Clunes IB Signal*, Muir of Ord, Dingwall, Evanton IB Signal*, Invergordon, Fearn*, Tain, Ardgay*, Lairg, Rogart*, Brora, Helmsdale*, Forsinard, Georgemas Jct, Bower*, Wick.

* - Only required to exchange tokens if not holding the 'long section' tokens. Note that holding a long section token will stop following traffic as well as oncoming traffic from leaving the previous mandatory TEP.

So in your example, you'd need long section tokens all the way (which requires the sleeper to be the full section ahead), and to call additionally at Larg, Brora and Forsinard. Given the low speed of the turnouts, I'd imagine skipping stops doesn't gain you very much time anyway.
 

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Without signalling changes, all trains need to stop for 1 minute at least at Token Exchange Points (TEPs) regardless of whether or not they make a passenger stop.
Since the RETB frequency change over was carried out the capacity for adding the option for on the move token exchanges and more flexibility with long tokens exists (at least theoretically, but I gather on the move exchanges are coming).

With regards to why Thurso first, in addition to the points others have raised above, Thurso is the long way round by coach which goes through Wick first. Thus rail journey times to Wick are never going to be time competitive with Ember/Citylink, but they are to Thurso.

I suspect there’s not much difference in the overall market for trips to Inverness from Wick or Thurso, but the coaches have the bulk of the Wick market and ScotRail majority of the Thurso market.

Even for Highland Railcard holders, with the £2 fair cap trial, it’s a no brainer to take the coach from Wick, particularly Ember.
 

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Realistically I can't see the business case for it checking out.

There is now a passenger air service from Aberdeen to Wick under PSO. There are talks of getting Edinburgh to Wick being instated also.

I can see how faster connections to Thurso may be useful but given the current timetabling on the Far North Line, I doubt many are commuting, and it's more for leisure, in which case the exact speed of the rail journey is probably less of a concern, and will be chosen by some because it's relaxing and scenic.

I love the Far North Line, but I don't think many people - locals or those from farther afield - are particularly held back by the speed.
 

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