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Near miss with an access ramp at Norwood Junction station (RAIB)

saismee

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You're not going to catch much that way, of the small proportion who might do it at some point, they wouldn't be on the phone all day, every day.

Much more effective for DTMs to conduct spot checks at handover points by asking the driver to demonstrate that their device is switched off. Word gets around and people are less likely to risk it.
Or they'll make sure it's switched off before handing over...
 
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Thebaz

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Forgive me if I am misunderstanding something here:

the report says



it says that some drivers do not think they would be caught using a mobile device while driving, not that they think it is okay. If the survey results showed that 40% of Britons thought they could get away with murder, that doesn't mean that 40% 'think it's okay' to murder someone.

What can be understood from this is an understanding of how effective drivers think enforcement of policies in the workplace is. The survey (that is quoted in the RAIB report) does not ask whether drivers think it is okay. Similarly, the same can be applied for the latter, 18% of drivers think using a phone does not affect performance. It does not say that they would.
Fair point, I've probably misinterpreted the purpose of the survey. It's still a concern though if 40% think they wouldn't be caught so the temptation is there. And the 18% who think using a mobile doesn't affect performance are simply ignorant - we demonstrably know that using a mobile is a distraction even from walking down the street, let alone from driving.
 

Mattplans

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I have spotted this on Twitter this evening:

This is displayed at New Cross station which is managed by Southeastern but serves Windrush Line as well


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(The image is a poster that says Windrush Line passengers will not be able to travel from the station due to “issues with our ramp”. It apologises for the inconvenience and advises customers on alternative travel arrangements.)

I am wondering if this has any relation to the Norwood incident . Perhaps upon review New Cross also had the wrong ramp.
 

AlterEgo

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Ramp-requiring passengers really ought to be taxied in that situation.
 

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