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Rob F

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A car has gone down the cutting onto the track at Carbis Bay.

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I can't work out what has happened here, from the photo it looks like a dirt track the other side of the fence, but for the fence to give way like that I'd presume the car was doing some speed?
 

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I can't work out what has happened here, from the photo it looks like a dirt track the other side of the fence, but for the fence to give way like that I'd presume the car was doing some speed?
Looks to be about here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/p2efkHX6ggiiBS368

So a very steep road leading up to a dog-leg bridge, where the dirt track drops sharply down. The straight path up from Beach Road would launch you at the upper section of the fence.
 

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Line now clear but no sign of any trains. Update saying 16:30 at the earliest.

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Reports were pessimistic, first train just gone through.
 
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It would appear that the driver ran off after leaving the car according to latest reports - obviously had something to hide!

Driver abandons crashed car on Carbis Bay railway tracks​


"The driver of a car which crashed onto a railway fled the scene, police have said."

 

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It would appear that the driver ran off after leaving the car according to latest reports - obviously had something to hide!



"The driver of a car which crashed onto a railway fled the scene, police have said."

Should have thought that anyone who does that with a car and is capable of making off afterwards (ie the crash is not the result of a medical incident) is likely to have something to hide - their embarrassment at the very least.
 

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Should have thought that anyone who does that with a car and is capable of making off afterwards (ie the crash is not the result of a medical incident) is likely to have something to hide - their embarrassment at the very least.
Exactly - be interesting to see what happens as it is bound to end up in court.
 

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It has been suggested that 'hit and run' / 'leaving the scene of a RTC' should be treated like a drink/drug driving incident for obvious reasons
 

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It has been suggested that 'hit and run' / 'leaving the scene of a RTC' should be treated like a drink/drug driving incident for obvious reasons
As long as it doesn’t go as far as Germany where a friend once took a while convincing the authorities to drop the charge of “leaving the scene” which had been reported by the kind of “concerned passer by” that I think only the German-speaking nations could produce. Yes, officer, I did back into and damage a trailer and, yes, I was aware. I did not drive off without informing the owner as I am the owner!
 

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Could this be seen as an offence under Offences against the Person Act 1861, Section 34 ‘Doing or omitting anything to endanger passengers by railway’? Leaving a large lump of metal on the railway should, to my eyes and I suspect also those of the man on the Clapham omnibus, be seen as likely to endanger safety on the railway. However, I suspect the driver will get away without any significant penalty.
 

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Should have thought that anyone who does that with a car and is capable of making off afterwards (ie the crash is not the result of a medical incident) is likely to have something to hide - their embarrassment at the very least.

My guess is just blind panic.
 

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Could this be seen as an offence under Offences against the Person Act 1861, Section 34 ‘Doing or omitting anything to endanger passengers by railway’? Leaving a large lump of metal on the railway should, to my eyes and I suspect also those of the man on the Clapham omnibus, be seen as likely to endanger safety on the railway. However, I suspect the driver will get away without any significant penalty.
In some ways the driver at Carbis Bay acted more irresponsibly than the driver responsible for the Great Heck crash on the ECML?

At least the Great Heck driver did remain on scene and call for help - but was still gaoled.

I know that Great Heck involved injury and loss of life - but the driver certainly showed more responsibility than whoever was in the car at Carbis Bay. Just leaving a car on a railway line is just criminally irresponsible.

Being a bit of a fan of fly on the wall police series quite often people seem to run off because they have usually consumed something which has taken them over the limit and hope that by the time they sometimes voluntarily take them selves to the police station they are no longer under the influence and may get away with a lesser charge.
 

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The BBC published a Network Rail image of the car being removed by a road/rail vehicle that appears to have headed towards St Erth:
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I wonder where it was offloaded as in the image it seems to rather out of gauge!
 
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The BBC published a Network Rail image of the car being removed by a road/rail vehicle that appears to have headed towards St Erth:
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I wonder where it was offloaded as in the image it seems to rather out of gauge!

What that photo doesn't show is the flat truck coupled to the crane. Presumably the crane swung the car around behind it and put it on the truck after it reversed out of the cutting.

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Photo credit: Craig Munday
 

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What that photo doesn't show is the flat truck coupled to the crane. Presumably the crane swung the car around behind it and put it on the truck after it reversed out of the cutting.

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Caption competition? That’s probably going to be on the cover of the next motorail timetable.

”Pick up and drop off from your drive thanks to our new long reach crane”. o_O :D
 

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Caption competition? That’s probably going to be on the cover of the next motorail timetable.

”Pick up and drop off from your drive thanks to our new long reach crane”. o_O :D
Motorail returns with tentative trial service.
 

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I am assuming that the vehicle is being carried backwards. I am wondering where the car would be dropped off. St Erth, I suppose but possibly on the bridge on the road above the line at Dynamite Quay in Lelant.
 

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For clarity, in the original post I witnessed this myself and the photo I posted was mine.
 

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