Pnerick81
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I know they used to control it but that was 30 year ago when my dad worked there .
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Collision between train and car at Hoghton near Preston (25/06)
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MarkWi72
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Ok, thanks for clarifying.
Pnerick81
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Thanks . I’ve just been informed that Preston box can override the crossing at hoghton and signals to red. But that’s only if there’s a fault with the crossing .
Yes there would have to be an override somewhere as Hoghton is an AHB. If the barriers failed, I suppose car drivers would eventually just chicane across the railway regardless.
I thought bamber bridge controlled the crossings and give release to Preston to clear the signals.
Pnerick81
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I hope there isn’t any planning to remove this box as the amount of times cars are on the tracks during queues is horrendous . I’ve seen the signalman telling people to get off the rails
Elecman
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Yes Red Light Safety Cameras are fitted at Hoghton to prosecute Red light chancers/abusers
dk1
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Yes the train will pass an AHB within 15-30secs of the barriers lowering. There does Not need to be any signal protection.
I remember struggling with this concept in training school where the crossing is independent of signals and asked a lot about AHB Crossings. As a green trainee I was caught in the thought of “what if it fails and the signals are green”. I understood the concept of failing safe and regardless of barrier position the lights should be adhered to by road vehicles.
My trainer asked around at Network Rail.
I remember being told the standard is apparently 28 seconds from yellow warning light to train on crossing.
I believe it was set to avoid impatient motorists thinking the crossing had failed.
And the failure rate was something like 0.0003%
One of the crossings I drove you’d round a curve to see the last cars crossing and the barriers lower as you approached.
My trainer asked around at Network Rail.
I remember being told the standard is apparently 28 seconds from yellow warning light to train on crossing.
I believe it was set to avoid impatient motorists thinking the crossing had failed.
And the failure rate was something like 0.0003%
One of the crossings I drove you’d round a curve to see the last cars crossing and the barriers lower as you approached.
Pnerick81
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The thing about hoghton crossing is there now doesn’t even have to be a level crossing and could be two Cul de sacs stopping either side of the railway . As both ends of station road join Preston old road .
I think we're probably done here for the time being. Once there's relevant updates from the authorities about this horrific incident please feel free to report this post and we'll look at posting/re-opening the thread for further discussion. In the meantime I hope the child passenger makes a swift and full recovery.
To add to the above, a criminal investigation has now begun.
www.bbc.co.uk
Family pays tribute to 'devoted mum' killed on level crossing
The family of 33-year-old Kerry Coombes say her death has left a "hole that can never be filled".
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An RAIB Investigation is now underway.
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Collision between a train and a car at Hoghton level crossing
Investigation into a collision between a passenger train and a car at Hoghton automatic half-barrier level crossing, near Preston, Lancashire, 25 June 2026.
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