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Things in living memory which seem very anachronistic now

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Prompted by today's TV coverage...

The public being able to wander up Downing Street and being able to take photos of the front door. Just a couple of unarmed bobbies guarding it.
The last time this happened the car used was an Audi SUV. It would previously have been regarded as unacceptable for the British prime minister to be driven in a foreign-made car. I also saw a recent photo of the King and Queen getting out of a BMW. Dearie, dearie me.
 
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Not only the imprinters but the debit/credit cards with the raised numbers are now becoming ever rarer too, so for many customers even this fallback option would have been no good!

My last raised number card expired last month. Just flat printed ones now.
 

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The days when it was still possible to see "Spitting Forbidden" notices on some public transport conveyances and at other public spaces. Occasionally "Smoking and Spitting Prohibited".
 

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At the risk of being policitcal here

"Things in living memory which seem very anachronistic now"

A Prime Minister that serves his or her full term
 

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At the risk of being policitcal here

"Things in living memory which seem very anachronistic now"

A Prime Minister that serves his or her full term

David Cameron 2010-2015 and Tony Blair 2001-2005 are not that long ago. Or maybe I am getting old :lol:

There’s a thought. Who was the last Prime Minister to enter office by winning a Gneral Election, and left office by losing one? Heath?
 

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There’s a thought. Who was the last Prime Minister to enter office by winning a Gneral Election, and left office by losing one? Heath?
I think you are spot on re. it being Heath. Another feature which might at one time have been more of an anachronism is that of PMs not bothering with the inconvenience of being elected by the electorate (Major, Brown, Sunak and potentially Starmer's successor).
 

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I think you are spot on re. it being Heath. Another feature which might at one time have been more of an anachronism is that of PMs not bothering with the inconvenience of being elected by the electorate (Major, Brown, Sunak and potentially Starmer's successor).

You forgot one, rather short term, recent incumbent. That is a disgrace! :lol:
 

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There were other previous examples of someone new becoming PM without a General Election. Callaghan in 1976 and Douglas-Home in 1963. Major was elected in 1992 after being Tory leader since 1990.
 

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You forgot one, rather short term, recent incumbent. That is a disgrace! :lol:
Yes I overlooked Truss.

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There were other previous examples of someone new becoming PM without a General Election. Callaghan in 1976 and Douglas-Home in 1963. Major was elected in 1992 after being Tory leader since 1990.
That's perfectly true, but possibly becoming more of a thing.
 

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Prompted by today's TV coverage...

The public being able to wander up Downing Street and being able to take photos of the front door. Just a couple of unarmed bobbies guarding it.
I can remember when a knee rail fence was all that was protecting Heathrow Airport...

...and people respected it, staying on the right side of it at all times.
 

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"Things in living memory which seem very anachronistic now"

A Prime Minister that serves his or her full term
Even more so, one whose party loses an election, remains as leader and serves a further term after the next election. Wilson possibly the most recent but it used to be the norm back in the 19th century. Strangely enough, wisdom comes through setbacks and someone who loses isn’t always a “loser”.
 

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Even more so, one whose party loses an election, remains as leader and serves a further term after the next election. Wilson possibly the most recent but it used to be the norm back in the 19th century. Strangely enough, wisdom comes through setbacks and someone who loses isn’t always a “loser”.
Wilson was definitely the most recent example.

The tendency of leaders of main parties to resign once they've lost an election is another factor leading to instability. It's encouraged by speculation in the media. There are too many other figures in each party who delude themselves into supposing they could lead the party more effectively. Most of them are mistaken. There is no certainty that the procedures the parties currently use to select a new leader will produce the best answer.
 

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There is no certainty that the procedures the parties currently use to select a new leader will produce the best answer.
I think it was the Conservative party whose leaders at one time were simply deemed to have "emerged".
"Like a slug from underneath a stone" as some commentator once described it.
 

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There is no certainty that the procedures the parties currently use to select a new leader will produce the best answer.
There's not, but there's no procedure that can offer that certainty and you have to have something.

There’s a thought. Who was the last Prime Minister to enter office by winning a Gneral Election, and left office by losing one? Heath?
I read somewhere yesterday that Heath and Clement Atlee are the only people who that's the case for in terms of the whole of their premiership (as opposed to, for example, Harold Wilson who did that once but then came back and served a partial term).
 

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There is no certainty that the procedures the parties currently use to select a new leader will produce the best answer.
Part of the problem being that leading a party is like nothing else - including leading a country. In fact, except in the most favourable circumstances, those two positions almost certainly pull against each other.
 

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I think it was the Conservative party whose leaders at one time were simply deemed to have "emerged".
"Like a slug from underneath a stone" as some commentator once described it.
You're right, it did apply to the Conservatives. Senior figures in the party took "soundings", which presumably means that they sought the views of other senior figures, MPs, local party chairmen, and the individual considered most likely to do the job most effectively, and have the widest acceptance, was identified.

It was more successful on some occasions than on others. But the same applies to present-day methods.


The commentator you quote was clearly unsympathetic!

Part of the problem being that leading a party is like nothing else - including leading a country. In fact, except in the most favourable circumstances, those two positions almost certainly pull against each other.
But the point of being party leader is to become Prime Minister - in the case of Conservatives and Labour, anyway.
 

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There's something I find very anachronistic as it still continues today.

Publication of stock market closing prices in The Times, Financial Times and several other newspapers. Together with other financial data they occupy several pages, yet the vast majority of people owning stocks and shares can look up prices and deal instantly online.
 

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Yes I overlooked Truss.

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That's perfectly true, but possibly becoming more of a thing.
Obviously no longer in living memory but back in the nineteenth century, when party attachments were more fluid, when a party lost the election their leaders did not resign. Parliament met, the Speech from the Throne was given, the Address In Reply was moved and only if they lost that did the government resign.
You're right, it did apply to the Conservatives. Senior figures in the party took "soundings", which presumably means that they sought the views of other senior figures, MPs, local party chairmen, and the individual considered most likely to do the job most effectively, and have the widest acceptance, was identified.

It was more successful on some occasions than on others. But the same applies to present-day methods.


The commentator you quote was clearly unsympathetic!
The other issue was that the final decision effectively rested with the monarch. Often the new prime minister was only ever going to be one person, but on occasions where the choice was up in the air, the monarch could manoeuvre themselves into being able to make their own selection. When we say now that the monarch is “above politics”, that is a fairly recent phenomenon; they were a political force to be reckoned with even in the 1950s. Queen Victoria famously strained every sinew to keep Gladstone out of power, and George V picked Baldwin over Lord Curzon in 1923.

When Elizabeth II appointed Alec Home in 1963, rather than Rab Butler, this attracted much adverse comment and it was decided to bring the system into Parliament- which is where it belongs.
 

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The smell of "overheated car", whether it's the engine or the brakes. It's not quite "burning rubber", but something quite unique.

One went past me earlier today. The smell immediately took me back to getting upset as a small child in the late 80s, when my mum had to pull over because the brakes on her old Datsun were binding.
 

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The days when heatwaves were greeted by headlines like "el Scorchio" and tabloid reporters were sent out from the office to fry an egg on the Fleet Street pavement. And, of course, the opportunity was taken to print photos of young women with not many clothes on.
 

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I wonder if the library school bus is anachronistic.

Also buses having fabric textures on the side walls. I remember the high floor pointers and library school bus with fabric textured walls. I don’t know if this was more of a 90s thing that just old fashioned thing though. I think it was.
Please enlighten - what on earth is a library school bus. School buses and mobile libraries I can cope with, but a combination of the two seems odd.
 

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Please enlighten - what on earth is a library school bus. School buses and mobile libraries I can cope with, but a combination of the two seems odd.
There is also the concept of a school library housed in a static (and effectively immobile) bus. I know of one such in north Devon, and believe there are others (I think one or two Pacer vehicles ended up that way)
 

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Please enlighten - what on earth is a library school bus. School buses and mobile libraries I can cope with, but a combination of the two seems odd.
I meant mobile library buses that visited school’s, so for schools as they were also branded to probably look more attractive to primary school kids.
 

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Queueing overnight for a console, game, mobile phone launch.

We aren’t gonna see the worth gta vi, however the hype seems less physical but much more mental as there is endless content about the game thanks to social and online media.

 
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