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WCR/RTC Railtour locomotives, fleet updates and movements

SECR 65

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....but can many of them afford one, given their current straightened finances?
This is absolutely a fair point. That said, if I was a heritage railway short of money (I'm a volunteer at one, but not one myself!!!!!!) then I think ensuring sufficient steam locomotives were available to run the service would be a priority for what budget I had. I would suggest that ability to deliver a steam service is one of the most important things both reputationally and also a consideration for many prospective visitors.
 
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47286Dan

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This mornings tour

57313 AWCA MANCR VIC 311Z641618 U * ASCOT
57601 AWCA MANCR VIC 311Z641618 U * ASCOT
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10734, 10729, 17167, 325, 3313, 3275, 3247, 3267, 1953, 3273, 3174

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Dave S 56F

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Not for tomorrow but my theory is that a rake of MK1's can't be that far away... otherwise why would you steam test the 8F and start the boiler ticket counting down, knowing its not really usable? (This is just a theory though)
I would say here steam4max I visited the embsay and Bolton Abbey steam railway gala in June 2025 and alot of west coasts carriages had been sent there they still had the west coast railways Black and golden logos on the outside and still had inside them the jacobite F and B above the seats and perspex sheets above the seats and still the brass bolts on the doors.
When the covid 19 pandemic happened there was a full rake of about 6 T.S.O. M.K.1 carriages i do believe as well some more went to the East lancs railway and on low loaders as well scattered around the south west of England the Dartmouth steam railway. And David Smith did this loaning his carriages out to heritage railways to keep them earning money in the hope one day C.D.L. could be fitted all in all at Carnforth west coast had 80 carriages wether that's all mark 1 and Mark 2 I don't know I remember when west coast could run up to 3 different tours on the same day with 3 different steam locos smithy had that many carriages.
 
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We were told that the stock couldn't leave Southall until the fast lines were cleared of engineering works, as those are the only routes available out of the depot.
Hopefully that makes some sense - don't know why the engineering works overran though?
P.S. Peter Pan and Tangmere were fantastic!
 

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We were told that the stock couldn't leave Southall until the fast lines were cleared of engineering works, as those are the only routes available out of the depot.
Hopefully that makes some sense - don't know why the engineering works overran though?
P.S. Peter Pan and Tangmere were fantastic!
I don't know where you got that information from, but it is incorrect in several areas.

RTT for the ECS move (5A86 0524 Southall WCR to London Euston) https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C16641/2026-06-20/detailed correctly shows that the ECS departed Southall depot on time, but was held at South West Sidings until the WCML Fast Line block was cleared an hour late. The block was on the Fast Lines from somewhere around Wembley through to Euston and included platforms 12 to 16. I was at Euston at this time and the reduced number of trains that arrived and departed all left from platforms 11 or lower. 86259 was held in Kilburn loop until the ECS had arrived at Euston platform 16, as scheduled, after the line opened.

We never found out why the works overran.
 

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Does anyone know what set will be used for Saturdays diesel tour, will it be the same as the start of the month?
 

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Once again, sorry to be bombarding with questions but what 37s are in the mix to be on the tours this week?

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37668 and 37669 now confirmed for Saturdays tour
 
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34067 ran tender first to Ravenglass, supported by 47812

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Once again, sorry to be bombarding with questions but what 37s are in the mix to be on the tours this week?

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37668 and 37669 now confirmed for Saturdays tour
With 47832 on the rear
 

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34067 ran tender first to Ravenglass, supported by 47812
I've just seen this video on YouTube and went searching on here for a thread mentioning it. I've never seen a loco running tender first on a railtour before!

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A very rare Tender-first Charter working today with SR 34067 Tangmere on The Cumbrian Coast Express running Tender-first from Carnforth to Ravenglass due to the lack of turning facilities at the destination, we see Tangmere with eleven on and 47812 working on the rear from Arnside through to Holme Island in hot conditions so very little out of the chimney and very little early sound, hope you enjoy and thanks for watching. Anyone aware of when the last steam charter that was tender-first ran would be helpful.

-Peter
 

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I've just seen this video on YouTube and went searching on here for a thread mentioning it. I've never seen a loco running tender first on a railtour before!



-Peter
The Kyle of Lochalsh leg of the GB in 2024 and the Mallaig leg of the GB this year involved tender first running. Also seem to recall a VT Shakespear Express running tender first between Snow Hill and Stratford a couple of years ago.
 

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34067 ran tender first to Ravenglass, supported by 47812

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Railtour locos heading for Ravenglass always used to turn on the triangle in the nearby MOD depot at Eskmeals. Is that no longer available or accessible? Possibly it would require the attendance of a Network Rail Mobile Operations Manager to work the ground frame.
 

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Railtour locos heading for Ravenglass always used to turn on the triangle in the nearby MOD depot at Eskmeals. Is that no longer available or accessible? Possibly it would require the attendance of a Network Rail Mobile Operations Manager to work the ground frame.

Eskmeals was used for one season - in the 1970s!

Sellafield was used until 2011, when the site operator suddenly decided mid-season that they would no longer allow steam locos onto site for security reasons. Since then, it seems the triangle on site has also been removed.
 

47286Dan

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Today’s movement

40145 on a test run

37685 AWCA CREWE 425M43MG01 E * CARNFTHST N
40145 CFSL CREWE 425M43MG01 E * CARNFTHST N
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1200, 6176, 6067, 9527, 1212, 3392

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I've just seen this video on YouTube and went searching on here for a thread mentioning it. I've never seen a loco running tender first on a railtour before!



-Peter
The welsh mountaineer when west coast still had the M.K. 1 Coaches used to have to run tender 1st from Chester turning the loco on the triangle at Chester depot to Llandudno Jct to run round there and run chimney 1st up the Conwy valley line to Blaenau Ffestiniog.
 

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