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East Yorkshire Motor Services, now part of Go-Ahead

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It does feel as though the whole East Yorkshire red and cream identity is slowly being eroded. A non-enthusiast friend of mine traveled on one of the new Electroliners yesterday and said inside the bus gave Stagecoach vibes (blue seats and wall accents), although I appreciate that these were probably placed as part of a wider Go-Ahead order and having them all the same spec was a way to reduce cost and delivery times.

This can also be seen with the new blue uniforms and social media branding style.
If a lot of provincial Electroliners have identical interiors, this will limit how many places I feel like riding one.

I am due to ride examples in Gateshead/Hull in July and Salisbury in September.
 
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As stated upthread, they also don't have bike racks. Also stated upthread, these buses are likely being brought in so quickly to replace the increasingly unreliable E400 MMCs already on the route. The X46 now regularly has Gemini 2s and EvoSetis, both of which do not have tables or bike racks, so these new E400 MMCs are a downgrade in terms of the onboard facilities of the EastRider spec MMCs but are an upgrade in terms of reliability. These stock dealer MMCs will likely be an upgrade over the Gemini 2s and EvoSetis as well.
The question then is whether these buses are mechanically any different to the older ones – are they any more suited to that kind of punishing route or will they be similarly knackered in 6 years time? And if the older ones are moved to less demanding routes, will that allow them to become more reliable, or are they just shot to pieces now?

With the problems they've been having, I can understand why Go-Ahead have done this, but it's a shame to lose the premium experience that the EastRider buses offered, especially the seating. And with Go-Ahead having bought a large number of E400MMCs for other divisions in the last few years, I wonder if any of them are being used on similarly long routes and will be at risk of the same problems developing.
 

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The question then is whether these buses are mechanically any different to the older ones – are they any more suited to that kind of punishing route or will they be similarly knackered in 6 years time? And if the older ones are moved to less demanding routes, will that allow them to become more reliable, or are they just shot to pieces now?

With the problems they've been having, I can understand why Go-Ahead have done this, but it's a shame to lose the premium experience that the EastRider buses offered, especially the seating. And with Go-Ahead having bought a large number of E400MMCs for other divisions in the last few years, I wonder if any of them are being used on similarly long routes and will be at risk of the same problems developing.
The full length X45 is most likely just as intensive as the X46 so I doubt that the current buses would become more reliable if moving to the X45 as rumoured. If as rumoured they do move to the X45, some of the current buses would be based at Bridlington Depot it wouldn't be uncommon to see the odd one appear on the 41 as well to Hull.

I have no idea about the gearboxes and engines of these new buses in comparison to the current buses. We will have to wait a few years to see if they face the same reliability issues as the current MMCs.

EastRider has very much been on the down. The EvoSetis branded for the 41 are only EastRider in livery, the onboard experience is identical to the standard EvoSetis (which are common place on the X46 now). The Gemini 2s on the 55 are EastRider spec giving the route a more premium feel than the 41. Even if you do get an EastRider spec E400 MMC on the X46, the USB chargers often don't work and the WIFI usually isn't working either. Only the seats really give the buses the EastRider experience now. I think at this point reliable buses with fewer amenities will be valued more by people than unreliable buses with more amenities.
Believe it or not the 46 (Market Weighton to Holme-On-Spalding-Moor) is still listed as EastRider on EY's website perhaps lasting from a few years ago when it ran through to York. The 46 is far from an EastRider service in my opinion, running only a handful of times a day and usually operated by B9TL that has seen better days.
 
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The question then is whether these buses are mechanically any different to the older ones – are they any more suited to that kind of punishing route or will they be similarly knackered in 6 years time? And if the older ones are moved to less demanding routes, will that allow them to become more reliable, or are they just shot to pieces now?
I wouldn't be surprised if these vehicles are only intended to work the route in the short to medium term.
The intention to trial electric buses on the X46/7 was stated up-thread (notwithstanding that a couple have already worked it due to breakdowns of other buses).
The stock buses will buy a bit of breathing space for this trial to go ahead and for a batch of dedicated buses (electric or diesel, depending on the outcome) to be ordered and delivered.
 

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Considering how urgent these new buses are needed for X46/X47 how soon will they enter service?
 

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Just on a whim, I went to Companies House and noticed that the firm has a charge on it- is that serious?
The charge is against Go Ahead group not EYMS so appears against all Go Ahead owned companies. Don't ask me what it is for, I got lost quickly reading the document.
 

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From 20th July until 5th September, the 82/83/84 will be extended from Ripon to Fountains Abbey providing a direct link from York & Boroughbridge to Fountains Abbey everyday of the week:
East Yorkshire Buses are pleased to be working in partnership with the National Trust and DalesBus to provide an enhanced bus service to Fountains Abbey and Studley Royal this summer.

From 20 July until 5 September, North Riding services 82, 83 and 84 will be extended from Ripon to Fountains Abbey, providing a bus up to every hour during the daytime, Monday to Saturday.

The extension creates convenient direct links from York, Boroughbridge and Ripon, allowing visitors to enjoy a single-journey trip to one of Yorkshire's most spectacular attractions without the need to change buses.

This improvement has been made possible thanks to funding from the National Trust, and we would like to extend our sincere thanks for their support in helping more people access this world-famous heritage site by public transport.

At the same time, revised timetables will be introduced on North Riding services 82, 83 and 84 from 20 July to help improve punctuality and reliability. Additional running time has been built into the schedules to reflect increasing traffic levels and congestion experienced across the route in recent years. These changes will help provide a more reliable service for customers, reduce the impact of delays and improve the overall resilience of the timetable.

Paul Chatwood, on behalf of DalesBus, said:

"It's great to see improved sustainable access to Fountains Abbey and Studley Royal being supported by the National Trust throughout the summer school holidays, and we hope that lots of people will make use of it. This new trial service complements the existing Summer Sunday and Bank Holiday DalesBus services to Fountains Abbey, which provide access from Pocklington, York, Ripon, Harrogate, Bradford, Otley, Grassington and Pateley Bridge."

"Full details of all buses to Fountains Abbey are available online at www.dalesbus.org/fountainsabbey."

Stuart Fillingham, Commercial Director at East Yorkshire Buses, said:

"We are delighted to be working alongside the National Trust and DalesBus to improve access to one of Yorkshire's most iconic visitor attractions. The extension of our North Riding services 82, 83 and 84 will make it easier than ever for residents and visitors to travel sustainably to Fountains Abbey and Studley Royal, with direct links from York, Boroughbridge and Ripon."

"As well as introducing the new extension, we have taken the opportunity to revise our timetables to improve reliability across the network. By building additional running time into the schedules, we are helping to ensure customers can enjoy a more dependable service while exploring some of the finest destinations Yorkshire has to offer."
 

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From 20th July until 5th September, the 82/83/84 will be extended from Ripon to Fountains Abbey providing a direct link from York & Boroughbridge to Fountains Abbey everyday of the week:

That's comical timing from who ever made the decision to publicise this without an agreement that the timetable would be available straight away on the Dalesbus website, because all you see when you click on the link is the usual 139, 820/2/5. A more cautious approach would have been to say 'timetable will be available nearer the time on the Dalesbus website'.
 

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Does this signal the winding down of the whole EastRider ‘experience’? The X46/47 has always been the flagship EastRider but is now getting dealer stock buses permanently allocated. Once the Plaxton Centros go, the X45 and Hornsea services will be ran by normal buses, the 41 just uses repainted buses with no interior refurbishment, the 55 always seems to have one EastRider and one normal G2 allocated. The 75/X7 will be the final service to have a full proper EastRider allocation.

* by ‘experience’ I am referencing the refurbished seats, red lighting, interior branding, tables etc.
With the 75/X7, I would say at least half the time its got a normal G2 instead of the EastRider Evoseti. It definitely isnt full EastRider anymore.
 

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From 20th July until 5th September, the 82/83/84 will be extended from Ripon to Fountains Abbey providing a direct link from York & Boroughbridge to Fountains Abbey everyday of the week:

Crikey - sense at last. I proposed that years ago.The service ought to be promoted as heritage link - York Minster- Newby Hall -Ripon Cathedral- Fountains Abbey and consideration be given to running it beyond those dates bar winter Fridays when Fountians Abbey is shut
 

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That's comical timing from who ever made the decision to publicise this without an agreement that the timetable would be available straight away on the Dalesbus website, because all you see when you click on the link is the usual 139, 820/2/5. A more cautious approach would have been to say 'timetable will be available nearer the time on the Dalesbus website'.
Timetable is on the website now though so well done to Dalesbus for publicising this new facility a month in advance. Hope it does well.
 

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Crikey - sense at last. I proposed that years ago.The service ought to be promoted as heritage link - York Minster- Newby Hall -Ripon Cathedral- Fountains Abbey and consideration be given to running it beyond those dates bar winter Fridays when Fountians Abbey is shut
IIRC, they did try a service in the mid 1990s to provide a daily link to Fountains Abbey from Ripon (135) and perhaps sometime in the early 2000s too.

The current pattern on the 139 (Mon/Thu/Sat) is an improvement on the traditional service which was only ever market days
 
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There will be timetable changes to the 7/7A from 21st June as the new Community Diagnostic Centre in Eastfield opens:
Service 7 & 7A – Timetable Changes from Sunday 21 June

We would like to advise customers that revised timetables will be introduced on Services 7 and 7A from Sunday 21 June.

Working in partnership with North Yorkshire Council, York and North Yorkshire Combined Authority, Schneider Electric, and York & Scarborough Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust, we are pleased to confirm that, from this date, all Service 7 and 7A journeys will serve the new Scarborough Community Diagnostic Centre at Eastfield. This will provide improved public transport links to this important new healthcare facility, which opens to patients on Monday 22 June.

The revised routeing will also improve access to the Schneider Electric manufacturing facility at Eastfield, providing employees, visitors and prospective staff with a direct and sustainable public transport connection to one of the area's largest employers.

Together, Services 7 and 7A will provide up to six buses per hour between Scarborough town centre and Eastfield during peak periods, giving patients, visitors, healthcare staff and local employees a frequent and convenient link to the Community Diagnostic Centre and surrounding employment sites.

The introduction of these new links has required some changes to the timetable. We appreciate that customers are receiving relatively short notice of these revisions; however, final confirmation of the arrangements was only received last week. Following that confirmation, we worked closely with our partners to introduce the new links as quickly as possible, ensuring that patients, healthcare staff, visitors and local workers can access these important destinations from the day the facility opens.

As part of the revision, the timetable has been redesigned to provide greater resilience against delays and improve reliability across the route. We have also been able to restore a timetable pattern that is much closer to a regular clockface service during peak periods, making journey planning easier for customers.

The introduction of these enhanced links has been made possible through the support of York and North Yorkshire Combined Authority and Schneider Electric, whose financial contributions have helped fund the additional resources required to operate the service. This investment has enabled an additional vehicle to be allocated to the route, supporting the improved timetable, increased resilience and enhanced access to both the Community Diagnostic Centre and Eastfield employment sites.

We would like to thank York and North Yorkshire Combined Authority, North Yorkshire Council and Schneider Electric for their support in helping bring these improvements to local public transport and ensuring that both healthcare facilities and major employment sites are better connected by bus.

The new timetables are now available online and through journey planning apps. Printed timetable leaflets are currently being produced and will be available shortly.

We thank customers for their understanding and continued support and hope these improvements will make it easier for more people to access healthcare, employment and other opportunities across the Eastfield area.
 

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IIRC, they did try a service in the mid 1990s to provide a daily link to Fountains Abbey from Ripon (135) and perhaps sometime in the early 2000s too.

The current pattern on the 139 (Mon/Thu/Sat) is an improvement on the traditional service which was only ever market days
It will be interesting to see how many people use the link to Fountains Abbey. When i was driving for Yorkshire Heritage Buses I spent a couple of long sunny Saturdays parked ther for wedding parties. Only ! or 2 passengers boarded the local bus to Ripon on each occasion. Hopefully with good publicity this will improve
 

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IIRC, they did try a service in the mid 1990s to provide a daily link to Fountains Abbey from Ripon (135) and perhaps sometime in the early 2000s too.

The current pattern on the 139 (Mon/Thu/Sat) is an improvement on the traditional service which was only ever market days
Yes but what I was referring to was extending the 142/143 or 82/82/84 as they are now known, having actually occurred
 

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Funny how they say Scarborough Sevens yet the 7s page on their own website has it down as a North Riding route

Yet another branding inconsistency?
It's also listed under 'Scarborough Locals', a brand that was set to be phased out, on the timetables page of the website.
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Looking at the new timetable for the 82/83/84, there seems to be quite a bit of dead running at the start/end of the day between Pocklington & Boroughbridge. This was something removed by the timetable changes in November 2024. Two buses in the morning and two in the evening will run empty each day.

Connections from the 82 onto the 182 in Ripon will be not be possible during this time. The main reason for this connection is to allow school children to transfer between the services but given this timetable is only active during the school holidays this won't be an issue. I doubt many (if any) people connect from the 82 onto the 182 so this shouldn't cause any problems.

There is also some minor duplication with the 139 on Mondays, Thursdays & Saturdays with services running within 5 minutes of each other.
Crikey - sense at last. I proposed that years ago.The service ought to be promoted as heritage link - York Minster- Newby Hall -Ripon Cathedral- Fountains Abbey and consideration be given to running it beyond those dates bar winter Fridays when Fountians Abbey is shut
A year-round Saturday link could definitely work in my opinion, with enough promotion that is. There are several year-round DalesBus services on weekends that remain popular during the winter (74, 856, 874 all come to mind).
 

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20934 and 20935 are also at Anlaby Road depot with 20945, so that is all electric buses there now, so with the new white E400 MMCs for the X46 I expect a lot of allocation changes when the schools finish
 

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20934 and 20935 are also at Anlaby Road depot with 20945, so that is all electric buses there now, so with the new white E400 MMCs for the X46 I expect a lot of allocation changes when the schools finish
Assume by next week all electric for ey should be in service
 

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Seen reports on my local Grumbler Facebook group that one of the X99/X98 buses has been involved in a severe accident declared as a ‘major incident’ at Redhall Roundabout.
 

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Seen reports on my local Grumbler Facebook group that one of the X99/X98 buses has been involved in a severe accident declared as a ‘major incident’ at Redhall Roundabout.
Not much damage to the bus but defo serious for the SUV or what ever type it was going by the pictures on a news social media outlet. It's happened right at the junction and without speculating on here, it's obvious by the pictures what has happened.

Going a bit off track, but related to this incident, there have been calls for the junction to be given traffic lights, but to be honest, I don't think it does otherwise where do you stop with all these demands for traffic lights? Does the 2 junctions leading from the A58 down to Shadwell justify them? Do you put traffic lights in on all those road junctions through the various villages on the A58? This junction is just another local junction for local people, it doesn't lead anywhere major in one direction, just another one of those new build housing estates and in the other direction it just serves part of Whinmoor that has alternative access via the Ring Road and Coal Road if people don't like that junction.
 

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20934 and 20935 are also at Anlaby Road depot with 20945, so that is all electric buses there now, so with the new white E400 MMCs for the X46 I expect a lot of allocation changes when the schools finish
20945 has registration MF26 EFS, newly registered as of 18/06/26.

An update from EY Enthusiasts regarding the new E400 MMCs:
20946 YY26 FKJ delivered 11/06/26
20947 YY26 FKL delivered 11/06/26
20948 YY26 FKM delivered 11/06/26
20949 YY26 FKN delivered 12/06/26
20950 YY26 FKO delivered 12/06/26
20951 YY26 FKP delivered 12/06/26
20952 YY26 FKS delivered 12/06/26
20953 YY26 FKT delivered 16/06/26
20954 YY26 FKU delivered 16/06/26
20955 YY26 FKV awaited & to be confirmed
20956 YY26 FKW awaited & to be confirmed

 

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Not much damage to the bus but defo serious for the SUV or what ever type it was going by the pictures on a news social media outlet. It's happened right at the junction and without speculating on here, it's obvious by the pictures what has happened.

Going a bit off track, but related to this incident, there have been calls for the junction to be given traffic lights, but to be honest, I don't think it does otherwise where do you stop with all these demands for traffic lights? Does the 2 junctions leading from the A58 down to Shadwell justify them? Do you put traffic lights in on all those road junctions through the various villages on the A58? This junction is just another local junction for local people, it doesn't lead anywhere major in one direction, just another one of those new build housing estates and in the other direction it just serves part of Whinmoor that has alternative access via the Ring Road and Coal Road if people don't like that junction.
I was under the impression that it happened at the roundabout. Which junction was it?
 

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