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So if driver of second train did not react to spad warning then AWS would.apply brakes automatically.? or can only TWAS do that? Which second train did not.have.
I appreciate there was a SPAD incident with the second train. I do know something about computer software. For AWS "to apply brakes within itself," this it would need to be programmed within the software as a response to a specific identified situation . What is an erroneous brake application?
As an interested lay person can I ask a question ? I have seen several reports today which say the Intercity train was stopped because the AWS had triggered its brakes. Isn't AWS an early warning system? Would it be TPWS which would trigger the train's brakes ?
Returning to my earlier point about some drivers saying the dmh was broken or not fit for purpose. This is something that can be tested and also the historical records can be inspected. (Not to say of course the records of work are always accurate - Potter's Bar anyone?). Does anyone know how...
Changing tack, how often are trams serviced and in particular their safety kit? I assume this is logged and a record kept of work carried out.. If the dead mans handle was defective in some way, would this emerge during a service? Do drivers run through a quick safety check at the start of a...
Why is TfL legally liable as well as the tram operating company? In what way are they legally liable for accidents like this?
Still many questions. Regarding what changes should be made in the interim - until the inquiry reports - all that seems to have happened so far is speed restrictions...
Asking if there have been other similar tram accidents needs to be more specific for comparison purposes. Where have there been similar tram accidents, in similar vehicles, built and run under similar regulations in similar conditions i.e. run in part over over former railway tracks and...
So the people killed were thrown out of the windows? I still think this validates my point for needing stronger glass in the windows.
Also the report says the driver "lost awareness" shortly before the accident and did not fully brake in time. It leaves unclear why he lost awareness, maybe...
It looked to me, although difficult to see properly, that with the coach stabilised at an angle on its side with the lower end above ground, that an upper window panel had been opened or removed to allow passengers to escape. There was not much evidence of possessions on the ground or ripped...
A bus overturned in fog on the M40 last night and went onto the grassy verge. There were 17 injuries but no fatalities. Trams are supposedly built to the same safety standards and yet the Croydon crash was much more serious. I am posting a link here to the Daily Mail coverage which has a lot of...
I read that trams and urban buses have tempered glass windows (I think this is the kind that disintegrates into thousands of tiny squares?) although the driver's cab window, on a tram or light railway, is of laminated glass. Anyone able to confirm?
Judging from reports of motorway coach crashes in the past, where the coach overturned (eg Heathrow NE crash 2007), serious injury occurs most often where the window glass shatters and passengers not wearing seatbelts are thrown out or dragged along the ground inside the coach. At least on...
interesting account of presentation of initial report to H of C
http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/why-croydon-trams-do-not-have-automated-braking-systems-explains-mp/story-29894756-detail/story.html
worth a read as it suggests regs might need to be modified where the tram is effectively...
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